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Obama: The Cover Up Will Nail Him

People who have ANY kind of association ALWAYS share something in common.

Always. Always. Always.

Something. In. Common.

Obama and Ayers both admit they share something in common.

And if Obama and his campaign had been able to successfully erase evidence of their association you can be sure that Obama would deny it.

Obama is a sneaky guy.

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You THINK he is only lying to the conservatives in his campaign to steal the White House? Wrong. He is lying to ALL of us. The problem is that you think he will ALWAYS lie to your liking. But his agenda is NOT your agenda. You believe it is, but he has an ability to make both sides think he is on their side when in reality he can have a completely different agenda and surprise BOTH sides when the truth is known.

He will lie to you just as soon as he no longer has any need for your approval.
And though they admit they share something in common, the smoking gun of Obama sharing the same mindset as Ayers is hard to see because Obama is able to conceal, obscure or erase any evidence of that.

Almost.

What we have to use as evidence of Obama's guilt is as damning as the smoking gun of their sharing the same ideology.

The Cover Up.

Obama has tried to cover up all the incriminating evidence that he and Ayers share similar ideals and that they might have been working together toward (and may still be ideologically married to) the same kind of radical neo-Communist revolution.

But the evidence has started to show that Obama has misrepresented the nature of his association with Ayers.

And that is enough to damn him for concealing evidence from the American people.

As we know from Ayers' own admission, he is a "small "c" Communist."

And we know from Obama's policies that he, too, is a small "c" Communist and he comes by this point of view from the several Communist, Socialist, radical revolutionary leftist mentors and associates in his life.

We aren't judging him guilty by association, because if we did there would be no doubt at all of his guilt.

We are judging him guilty by cover up.

A cat does not cover up where he doesn't crap.

And by looking at the fact of his cover up we can deduce he has crapped there.

It will all boil down to the cover up.

That is what nailed Nixon.

That is what will nail Obama.
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What do you consider a "cover up" in the first place?

Quite frankly, I think "cover up" is more apt for people who get subpoenas to testify to congress AND THEN REFUSE TO SHOW UP.
I think "cover up" is more apt for people who get subpoenas in an ongoing "trooper-gate" investigation, and then blanket statements that ENTIRE GROUPS will not answer questions are released.
An FBI that refuses to answer questions about its wiretapping of Americans program, and courts that refuse to address the issue cause the people don't have "proof" of what their own government is doing ...
E-mails being kept on non-governmental servers...
DELETED e-mails...

THOSE are "cover ups".

When people don't listen to you regarding your opinions on Obama, that isn't a "cover up".
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008

Uncovering Obama's Ayers Cover-up--Why Its Important

There is a MAJOR story behind the Obama/Ayers relationship that we have yet to learn about . Just look at how hard the Obama campaign is fighting to slam shut the lid on the story .At issue is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge an organization created by Ayers and which Obama was a board member. Last month when Stanley Kurtz went to read the files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge he was thwarted at the last minute by Obama Loyalists (later he was granted acess to some of the files). Then when Harold Simmons launched an independent TV spot criticizing the Obama/Ayers connection the Obama campaign went to the department of Justice to try to get Simmons arrested and threatened TV networks that dared to run the commercial.

The campaign is continuing to go after the man who dared to start the investigation, Anthropologist and National Review writer Stanely Kurtz. But Kurtz remains on the case. Below is what he has found out so far despite the Obama teams best efforts to thwart him at every turn.

YID With LID: Uncovering Obama's Ayers Cover-up--Why Its Important

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September 24, 2008 6:30 AM

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What’s behind Obama’s early rise?

By Stanley Kurtz

New evidence strongly suggests that Barack Obama has been less than forthcoming about the role that unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers may have played in choosing him to lead the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC).
Through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, I have obtained an e-mail message from former CAC executive director, Ken Rolling, to Warren Chapman and Anne Hallett, two of CAC’s three co-founders.

Bill Ayers was the third founder.

In Rolling’s message, sent the morning after I first requested access to CAC records housed at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), he admits to avoiding a reporter’s inquiries about who picked Obama to head CAC. Rolling also appears to prime Chapman and Hallett to avoid telling the press the whole story of how Obama was chosen, and provides them with an apparently incomplete story to use instead. Although it’s too early to draw definitive conclusions from this evidence, it does raise serious questions about Barack Obama’s own account of the process by which he was chosen as CAC board chair.

My FOIA request to UIC yielded several documents, most of which had already been provided to University of Chicago law student Jason Wilcox through an earlier FOIA request. The documents produced by the Wilcox request have been described and discussed in detail by Steve Diamond at his “Global Labor and Politics” blog.

Important new information has also been added by a story in the Chicago Tribune.

Based on all of this material, let’s reconstruct what happened behind the scenes, beginning on August 11, 2008, the day I first contacted UIC requesting access to the CAC archives.
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What do you consider a "cover up" in the first place?

Quite frankly, I think "cover up" is more apt for people who get subpoenas to testify to congress AND THEN REFUSE TO SHOW UP.
I think "cover up" is more apt for people who get subpoenas in an ongoing "trooper-gate" investigation, and then blanket statements that ENTIRE GROUPS will not answer questions are released.
An FBI that refuses to answer questions about its wiretapping of Americans program, and courts that refuse to address the issue cause the people don't have "proof" of what their own government is doing ...
E-mails being kept on non-governmental servers...
DELETED e-mails...

THOSE are "cover ups".

When people don't listen to you regarding your opinions on Obama, that isn't a "cover up".
I don't know what alien world you come from but here on Earth and in the United States we assume that the men and women vying for the highest offices in the land will be truthful and candid in revealing information about their past.

This is like a job interview where if you are caught lying or trying to hide a material fact you are automatically disqualified.

Maybe this will help you to better grasp the concept.

Imagine you meet a guy and you and he fall in love and decide to get married and then on your wedding night he discovers you aren't really a woman at all, but a Shemale.

Doesn't he have a right to annul the marriage? (And maybe kick your ass and maybe sue you for damages?)

You married him under false pretenses.

But maybe that's all good where you come from.
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Imagine you meet a guy and you and he fall in love and decide to get married and then on your wedding night he discovers you aren't really a woman at all, but a Shemale.

Doesn't he have a right to annul the marriage? (And maybe kick your ass and maybe sue you for damages?)
I thought that you didn't want anyone talking about your first marriage???
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I thought that you didn't want anyone talking about your first marriage???
Actually I was talking about your father's greatest heartbreak.
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I don't know what alien world you come from but here on Earth and in the United States we assume that the men and women vying for the highest offices in the land will be truthful and candid in revealing information about their past.
Over and over again, your tactic can be summed up in one word.
ALLEGATIONS...

Take the article you just threw out there...
One line shines loud and clear, showing the lack of substance if somebody needed any help to see it...
Although it’s too early to draw definitive conclusions from this evidence, it does raise serious questions ...
You aren't proving anything.
Just throwing mud against Obama and hoping some of it will stick.
Even your article admits that it is JUST QUESTIONS!!!


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Name the lie...


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You married him under false pretenses.

In so many ways, this SCREAMS OUT the problem I have with Bush's Iraq invasion, but you and several others refuse to address that...
You should take some of your own advice...
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Obama is as much an Establishment choice for the unwashed masses as McCAin or Bush is.

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By October 2007 employees of the Goldman Sachs investment bank had given Clinton $338,690, Morgan Stanley employees $326,190, and Citibank employees $303,865. Obama got $360,328 from Goldman Sachs employees, even more than Clinton, but overall securities and investment companies, commercial banks, and real estate firms favor Clinton first. Security and investment companies favor Obama second, but real estate likes Romney and Guiliani over Obama. Hedge funds donate more to Guiliani than anyone, ahead of Clinton and Obama, and insurance ranks Chris Dodd (from Connecticut, where the insurance industry is headquartered), ahead of Romney, Guiliani, and Clinton in that order.

A second pot of corporate gold comes from lawyers and law firms. Clinton leads among this group as well, followed closely by Edwards and Obama, then leading Republicans Guiliani, McCain, and Romney. Lobbyists—the third group of major donors—give more to Clinton and Guiliani than to McCain, Dodd, and Romney. Obama and Edwards are refusing to accept lobbyist donations. A fourth pot of money—oil and gas interests—favors Guiliani first, followed by Romney, Clinton, and McCain. Guiliani and McCain appear to have captured most of those who gave heavily to the Bush/Cheney campaign. The final source of major funding is from professionals, who are often tied to corporations and who generally have less capital and donate less money to campaigns. Health professionals, educators, entertainment, and computer/Internet professionals favor Obama with slightly more money than Clinton, who in second place stands well ahead of Romney, Guiliani, and Edwards respectively in donations.
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In so many ways, this SCREAMS OUT the problem I have with Bush's Iraq invasion, but you and several others refuse to address that...
You should take some of your own advice...
The problem you have with the US invasion of Iraq stems from your inability to recognize there was no other nation or leader in the world at the time who was a greater threat to global peace and security than Iraq/Saddam.

He had started war with Iran in 1980.

He started war with Kuwait in 1990.

He required a global coalition to make him return his army to Iraq.

He had embarked on nuclear weapons development programs.

He continually violated the STIPULATIONS he signed in 1991 in order to avoid further military action upon his country and/or his regime.

He was mounting a global terrorism program designed to enlist the assistance of devout Muslims even though he was a secular (Sunni Muslim) leader.

He attempted the assassination of the Bush family when they visited Kuwait.

He was cash rich from embezzling money from the UN Oil For Food program.

And he was boasting of having WMD's.

The US response to this was the signing into law (by Bill Clinton) of the Iraq Liberation Act in 1988.

This could be seen as a necessary prelude to the coming action unless Saddam shaped up.

Democrats clamored for military action against Saddam. Democrats campaigned on the basis of taking military action against Saddam. And before the invasion Democrats approved taking military action against Saddam.

For you or anyone to say that there was no justification or that the Democrats didn't agree with the invasion BEFORE Bush was even sworn into office, is a God damned lie.

The problem you have with the US invasion of Iraq is that it is going to prevent the Iran from spreading it's fundamentalism throughout the entire region.
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Obama is as much an Establishment choice for the unwashed masses as McCAin or Bush is.
Guilt by association / donation...

Obama's plans are definitely NOT part of the current "establishment" status quo...

If they were, why are the Republicans freaking out so much over them???
Again, the arguments against Obama are just so ridiculously contradictory...
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