I receive mailers and emails from all kinds of groups. After the debates tonight (between Palin and Biden) I opened my email to find one from the Obama campaign stating how they believe Biden did a good job blah blah blah...please contribute to the campaign with $5 dollars or more.
Then I open up a GOP newsletter I get and see they are planning a "shock and awe" campaign to defeat Obama. All based on the "danger" he presents as President (Ayers, Farrakhan, etc. yadda yadda yadda). Then they ask for $5 THOUSAND dollars to make this happen with a torrent of ads.

What?!
If anyone still doubts Republicans have come under the influence of self aggrandizement, and delusional thinking, look at the economy.

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Exactly...I get those same e-mails...

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"Destiny must be shaped and not left to mere chance."..Spencer Collins ..

May I remind everyone that McCain can NOT receive anymore donations because, unlike Captian Emtpysuit, McCain didn't break his promise on campaign finance...

So the Republican PARTY (not McCain) has to get donations...

Remember...the Republican PARTY can't just have everything they have going to McCain...They have to sort out their cash among both Houses (and probably some local races, too)...

The Democrats don't have to deal with this because Obama (since he's a promise-breaker) can push for donations on his own and not take from the Democratic coffers...

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Look at the talking points, though. The Democrat mailer is saying Joe said this and that and this is what we believe is the right course for America.
The Republican one talks about smearing.
Hello?

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If you think the economy is so bad then look at it the other way........MORE money has been wasted on this campaign than any other in history......The much better and more economical method would have been to do EXACTLY what MCCAIN proposed in the beginning....to have a series of town hall meetings where the candidates could discuss ISSUES and be questioned by "WE THE PEOPLE" instead of an extremely biased and consistently stupid media.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

How would that have stopped the lies? McCain does it now without regard for the facts. Why would doing it in a town hall make a diff. And BTW this is the way this has been done for a while. McCain said he wouldn't have gone negative if Obama would have done townhalls. But he orginally said he would run a respectful campaign. Now before you try to find a moral equivalence just answer for McCain.

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The most economical way to conduct it would have been to carve out a portion of tax for the campaigns and let them use that money to the best of their ability. Also make media air ads as public service announcements.
I for one am tired of the campaign. It has been too long.

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And Obama promised to use public financing.........Therefore he forced the change.

All forums would have been "taped" and available for "fact-checking" so put your "lies" theory to rest....besides Obama has been more untruthful than Mccain and has been caught taking many comments "totally out of context" to the point of only giving HALF of a sentence only.
And by the way the difference would become readily apparent when you remove Obama from his teleprompter he does nothing but stutter, stammer and have to figure out what he can say because it is not based on his beliefs it is based on what he can get away with and fool people with. This next debate will begin to show you....it will be a "townhall format" even though the "setup" will not allow the candidates to truly interact nor will it allow "WE THE PEOPLE" to become involved without that DAMN media filter.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

The difference between you and me is I gave both guys a fair shot at my vote. You never did. Obama explained to me why he did what he did. It made sense to me. I have fact checked everything. Give me a break You only cover for McCain. You never answer for his lies. And the reason Obama stammers is because he is thinking it out thoroughly.

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I get tired of people who are obviously of one mindset attempting to portray themselves as independent and open to all points of view.

Serious people, after age 25 or so and certainly 30+, have established a world view.

Mikeyy, don't pretend there was a little chance that you would support someone other than the Democrat. I'm stupid, but not stupid enough to believe that based entirely upon the positions you advocate daily here. Same goes for everyone else.

There are few 'undecided' voters that participate in political forums. In fact I find the number of 'undecided' voters to always be overstated, and that real undecided voters aren't very intelligent or are very, very young. You are intelligent and not so young. You were never undecided. In fact I'd wager that NO ONE who regularly posts here was truly ever undecided.

Someone would have to build a convincing case for why they DID vote for Bush or Kerry in the last election, and why they are now voting for the guy in the other party this time around. I personally believe everyone who regularly posts in this forum, if they're being honest, are voting for the candidate from the same party they voted for 4 years ago.

Don't give me this, 'I had an open mind' speil. I'm not inclined to buy it.

I have a dissatisfaction with the Congress right now that inclines me to have VERY good reasons to re-elect any incumbent. For instance, I'm not satisfied with Senator Dole. I don't like her opponent much either and may simply abstain from voting in that race. I'm a bit more satisfied with my representative, Howard Coble ... but may not cast my vote his way either.

My mindset going into these elections is that everyone running needs to convince me that they represent my views, or they won't get my vote. I suppose that hasn't changed much over the years, but now I'm simply more comfortable abstaining from a given race than I've ever been before. To this point I consider McCain's history and not his campaign versus Obama's lack of history and his campaign and have made my decision based on my principles of how I believe our country should be run.

I consider it the honorable thing to do to recognize intelligent people can come to different conclusions.

Since I think you're intelligent, I have always considered that you would vote for Obama based on your views. To tell me otherwise either tells me you're lying or tells me you're not as intelligent as I give you credit for. I respectfully believe you're lying.

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