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Destruction of said records is a violation of Federal law from what I understand.
OF course with the crooked Democratic elite in power there will be no charges. Laws in their opinion don't apply to them, just the "little people"
Liberal idiots, all of them.
And when Repubs did the exact same damn thing, people like you weren't singing a song of "PROSECUTE!!!", were you...


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And when Repubs did the exact same damn thing, people like you weren't singing a song of "PROSECUTE!!!", were you...


Flashback: Rove Erases 22 Million White House Emails on Private Server at Height of U.S. Attorney Scandal – Media Yawns | Pensito Review
Apples and barcaloungers...

Karl Rove to Juan Williams on Clinton Emails: 'Get Your Facts Straight'

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A Sunday panel discussion including Fox News contributors Karl Rove and Juan Williams became heated Sunday when Williams accused Rove of using private email accounts himself when he was serving in the Bush White House.

"Jeb Bush has a private e-mail," Williams told Rove during the morning panel discussion on "Fox News Sunday," which iniitally had centered around former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's email accounts. "You had private e-mail."

Rove admitted that during his time in the White House, the Republican National Committee had accounts there, but "because of the Hatch Act, we had to have a separate account, but we were told these are presidential records. They were periodically swept and added into the White House archives."

At one time, the records were thought to be missing, and Clinton, who was at that time seeking the Democratic nomination in 2008, also accused the White House of having secret email accounts, said Rove.

"I was told right from the beginning that it was treated as a presidential record and was periodically swept and dumped into the White House archives, which is exactly what happened," Rove said.
So "no"...They weren't deleted, and were once THOUGHT to be missing, but they weren't...
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Apples and barcaloungers...
Karl Rove to Juan Williams on Clinton Emails: 'Get Your Facts Straight'
So "no"...They weren't deleted, and were once THOUGHT to be missing, but they weren't...
Oh.
Rove claiming something today somehow makes it all true.

So when were these emails turned over to the government?

Or is it closer to the truth that those emails were NEVER turned over to the government, and years later Rove is back-handedly saying "Oh yeah. They weren't really deleted"...

IT WAS ROVE who stated they were deleted years ago.
So who besides him can vouch that they weren't really deleted?
It's awfully damn convenient that TODAY Rove is claiming they weren't really deleted. YEARS AFTER we were looking for them...

Can you point to when the GW Bush administration changed their tune years ago and handed over those missing emails?
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Oh.
Rove claiming something today somehow makes it all true.

So when were these emails turned over to the government?

Or is it closer to the truth that those emails were NEVER turned over to the government, and years later Rove is back-handedly saying "Oh yeah. They weren't really deleted"...
Don't you know how data gets backed up????...

There was a program in place that periodically made copies from the PRIVATE server to the GOVERNMENT archives...Daily; Weekly; Monthly....Whatever...

Which, BTW, was something never done on Hillary's server...Sure, they can have copies of emails sent to and from government agencies to that server because of the backups from the other agencies, but anything government related that did NOT go through government servers would be missed because Hillary's server was never "periodically swept"...
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Don't you know how data gets backed up????...
There was a program in place that periodically made copies from the PRIVATE server to the GOVERNMENT archives...Daily; Weekly; Monthly....Whatever...
Yes. IF data backups were occurring and IF they were not deleted...

Show me where this data was previously made available, then we'll talk.

Until then, all we have is Rove making a claim today that contradicts every resource previously talking about the situation. Until then, all we have is Rove making a claim that cannot be substantiated.
Until then, what we have is a PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT that the Bush Administration (and Rove) hand over emails that they could not because they themselves, at that time, they were deleted.

Fast forward eight years, and you are blindly taking his word as all of a sudden he is claiming something different.

Show me, from previous statements unrelated to Rove's current recanting, how this was established and how those backup emails were handed over as required and THEN we'll talk.
Until then, all we have is Rove trying to rewrite history and you insisting it's gotta be true cause Rove said so...
2007 - Bush administration: "Sorry but we deleted our emails from our private server."
2008 - No change
2009 - No change
2010 - No change
2011 - No change
2012 - No change
2013 - No change
2014 - No change
2015 - No change

2016 - Rove: "Oh wait. We had backups."

If you've got something that changes this time-line, then offer it up.
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Yes. IF data backups were occurring and IF they were not deleted...

Show me where this data was previously made available, then we'll talk.

Until then, all we have is Rove making a claim today that contradicts every resource previously talking about the situation. Until then, all we have is Rove making a claim that cannot be substantiated.
Until then, what we have is a PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT that the Bush Administration (and Rove) hand over emails that they could not because they themselves, at that time, they were deleted.

Fast forward eight years, and you are blindly taking his word as all of a sudden he is claiming something different.

Show me, from previous statements unrelated to Rove's current recanting, how this was established and how those backup emails were handed over as required and THEN we'll talk.
Until then, all we have is Rove trying to rewrite history and you insisting it's gotta be true cause Rove said so...
2007 - Bush administration: "Sorry but we deleted our emails from our private server."
2008 - No change
2009 - No change
2010 - No change
2011 - No change
2012 - No change
2013 - No change
2014 - No change
2015 - No change

2016 - Rove: "Oh wait. We had backups."

If you've got something that changes this time-line, then offer it up.
Since you asked nicely...

I'll use a Lefty site so you won't go all Mikeyy on me...

From June 2007...making your list of years with "No change" 100% certified bullsh*t...

Leahy: Missing White House Emails Found, But Still Witheld From Congress

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In April, the White House claimed that “it had mishandled Republican Party-sponsored e-mail accounts used by nearly two dozen presidential aides, resulting in the loss of an undetermined number of e-mails concerning official White House business.” They also acknowledged that some of the “missing” emails may be related to the U.S. attorney scandal.

In an impassioned speech, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said at the time that the White House was lying and the emails could be recovered:

“They say they have not been preserved. I don’t believe that!” Leahy shouted from the Senate floor. “You can’t erase e-mails, not today. They’ve gone through too many servers. Those e-mails are there, they just don’t want to produce them. We’ll subpoena them if necessary.”

“Like the famous 18-minute gap in the Nixon White House tapes, it appears likely that key documentation has been erased or misplaced. This sounds like the Administration’s version of ‘the dog ate my homework.’”Today, during a Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, Leahy revealed that the White House does indeed have the emails, but has yet to turn them over to Congress:

The White House stonewalling the congressional investigative committees continues this pattern of confrontation over cooperation. We all remember when they first announced to us that significant e- mails that we wanted had been destroyed. They’d been lost. I stated on the floor of the Senate that it’s relatively easy to find those lost e-mails. This brought another blast from the White House, saying that I obviously had no understanding of how the Internet works and of course that couldn’t be done.

To their credit, the White House has now told me they — well, yes indeed, I was right; they were wrong. The e-mails are found. They were there in a backup system, although they have yet to give them.
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Oh.
Rove claiming something today somehow makes it all true.

So when were these emails turned over to the government?

Or is it closer to the truth that those emails were NEVER turned over to the government, and years later Rove is back-handedly saying "Oh yeah. They weren't really deleted"...

IT WAS ROVE who stated they were deleted years ago.
So who besides him can vouch that they weren't really deleted?
It's awfully damn convenient that TODAY Rove is claiming they weren't really deleted. YEARS AFTER we were looking for them...

Can you point to when the GW Bush administration changed their tune years ago and handed over those missing emails?
In your frenzied partisan myopia Rove needs to have been accurate when he said the emails were deleted but lied when he said they weren't. Same source but the partisan fun house mirror needs to distort the interpretation to try distracting from Hillary's felonious destruction of Federal records.

Not only did Hillary's private server outside the protection of Federal security expose classified data to foreign governments and hackers of all sorts she destroyed or attempted to destroy 60,000 government records. Creating her own private server allowed her to purge the backups as well. Instead of the disclosure required by law she submitted edited, printed versions of Federal records. Clearly she flaunted the law to a degree unprecedented by a senior cabinet official.
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Hillary Clinton’s lawyers used a special tool to delete emails from her personal server so that “even God can’t read them,” House Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy said on Thursday.
So Hillary Clinton's lawyers, not Hillary Clinton, selected an effective software to use in deleting her personal emails from the servers. That makes sense because the client's interests are what a lawyer is supposed to protect.

So what's the big story here? The story isn't even about Hillary Clinton. Are we supposed to condemn her lawyers for using the best software they could find to protect her private information?
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I would say that if this were even true the lawyers would possibly be guilty of destroying evidence. Since there were no charges I would also say Trey is a liar.
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So Hillary Clinton's lawyers, not Hillary Clinton, selected an effective software to use in deleting her personal emails from the servers. That makes sense because the client's interests are what a lawyer is supposed to protect.

So what's the big story here? The story isn't even about Hillary Clinton. Are we supposed to condemn her lawyers for using the best software they could find to protect her private information?
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So Hillary Clinton's lawyers, not Hillary Clinton, selected an effective software to use in deleting her personal emails from the servers. That makes sense because the client's interests are what a lawyer is supposed to protect.

So what's the big story here? The story isn't even about Hillary Clinton. Are we supposed to condemn her lawyers for using the best software they could find to protect her private information?
Last time I checked, lawyers don't take a dump without someone agreeing to billable hours. In this case, that someone would be Hillary. Neither do lawyers overstep the legal boundaries with being sure the blame would fall somewhere else. Again that would be Hillary.
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