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When we look back someday at the catastrophe that was the Bush administration, we will think of many things: the tragedy of the Iraq war, the shame of Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib, the erosion of civil liberties. The damage done to the American economy does not make front-page headlines every day, but the repercussions will be felt beyond the lifetime of anyone reading this page.

I can hear an irritated counterthrust already. The president has not driven the United States into a recession during his almost seven years in office. Unemployment stands at a respectable 4.6 percent. Well, fine. But the other side of the ledger groans with distress: a tax code that has become hideously biased in favor of the rich; a national debt that will probably have grown 70 percent by the time this president leaves Washington; a swelling cascade of mortgage defaults; a record near-$850 billion trade deficit; oil prices that are higher than they have ever been; and a dollar so weak that for an American to buy a cup of coffee in London or Paris—or even the Yukon—becomes a venture in high finance.

And it gets worse. After almost seven years of this president, the United States is less prepared than ever to face the future. We have not been educating enough engineers and scientists, people with the skills we will need to compete with China and India. We have not been investing in the kinds of basic research that made us the technological powerhouse of the late 20th century. And although the president now understands—or so he says—that we must begin to wean ourselves from oil and coal, we have on his watch become more deeply dependent on both.

Up to now, the conventional wisdom has been that Herbert Hoover, whose policies aggravated the Great Depression, is the odds-on claimant for the mantle “worst president” when it comes to stewardship of the American economy. Once Franklin Roosevelt assumed office and reversed Hoover’s policies, the country began to recover. The economic effects of Bush’s presidency are more insidious than those of Hoover, harder to reverse, and likely to be longer-lasting. There is no threat of America’s being displaced from its position as the world’s richest economy. But our grandchildren will still be living with, and struggling with, the economic consequences of Mr. Bush.

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The world was a very different place, economically speaking, when George W. Bush took office, in January 2001. During the Roaring 90s, many had believed that the Internet would transform everything. Productivity gains, which had averaged about 1.5 percent a year from the early 1970s through the early 90s, now approached 3 percent. During Bill Clinton’s second term, gains in manufacturing productivity sometimes even surpassed 6 percent. The Federal Reserve chairman, Alan Greenspan, spoke of a New Economy marked by continued productivity gains as the Internet buried the old ways of doing business. Others went so far as to predict an end to the business cycle. Greenspan worried aloud about how he’d ever be able to manage monetary policy once the nation’s debt was fully paid off.

This tremendous confidence took the Dow Jones index higher and higher. The rich did well, but so did the not-so-rich and even the downright poor. The Clinton years were not an economic Nirvana; as chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers during part of this time, I’m all too aware of mistakes and lost opportunities. The global-trade agreements we pushed through were often unfair to developing countries. We should have invested more in infrastructure, tightened regulation of the securities markets, and taken additional steps to promote energy conservation. We fell short because of politics and lack of money—and also, frankly, because special interests sometimes shaped the agenda more than they should have. But these boom years were the first time since Jimmy Carter that the deficit was under control. And they were the first time since the 1970s that incomes at the bottom grew faster than those at the top—a benchmark worth celebrating.

By the time George W. Bush was sworn in, parts of this bright picture had begun to dim. The tech boom was over. The nasdaq fell 15 percent in the single month of April 2000, and no one knew for sure what effect the collapse of the Internet bubble would have on the real economy. It was a moment ripe for Keynesian economics, a time to prime the pump by spending more money on education, technology, and infrastructure—all of which America desperately needed, and still does, but which the Clinton administration had postponed in its relentless drive to eliminate the deficit. Bill Clinton had left President Bush in an ideal position to pursue such policies. Remember the presidential debates in 2000 between Al Gore and George Bush, and how the two men argued over how to spend America’s anticipated $2.2 trillion budget surplus? The country could well have afforded to ramp up domestic investment in key areas. In fact, doing so would have staved off recession in the short run while spurring growth in the long run.

But the Bush administration had its own ideas. The first major economic initiative pursued by the president was a massive tax cut for the rich, enacted in June of 2001. Those with incomes over a million got a tax cut of $18,000—more than 30 times larger than the cut received by the average American. The inequities were compounded by a second tax cut, in 2003, this one skewed even more heavily toward the rich. Together these tax cuts, when fully implemented and if made permanent, mean that in 2012 the average reduction for an American in the bottom 20 percent will be a scant $45, while those with incomes of more than $1 million will see their tax bills reduced by an average of $162,000.

The administration crows that the economy grew—by some 16 percent—during its first six years, but the growth helped mainly people who had no need of any help, and failed to help those who need plenty. A rising tide lifted all yachts. Inequality is now widening in America, and at a rate not seen in three-quarters of a century. A young male in his 30s today has an income, adjusted for inflation, that is 12 percent less than what his father was making 30 years ago. Some 5.3 million more Americans are living in poverty now than were living in poverty when Bush became president. America’s class structure may not have arrived there yet, but it’s heading in the direction of Brazil’s and Mexico’s.
The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com

Oy vey this article is long. A total of four pages.
It's written by Joseph Stiglitz. He's got a Nobel in Economic Sciences.
He is THE most cited Economic author.
Economist Rankings at IDEAS
He wrote this back in December 2007. BEFORE the current economic crap hit the fan in an unprecedented deluge. Back when Bush was claiming the economy was fine...

There are a LOT of ways that Bush has screwed up this country, and I have serious concerns in handing over this country to a guy who doesn't recognize that about Bush (i.e. McCain).
The concern is even greater in realizing that McCain is more than likely charting to REPEAT those Bush failures ...
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Oh! Well if Vanity Fair says it, it's GOT to be true.
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Oh! Well if Vanity Fair says it, it's GOT to be true.
Boring attempt at "attack the messenger" you got there.
Pay attention to the AUTHOR, whose academic chops are unquestionable.

The fact that I already EXPLICITLY POINTED THAT OUT leads me to think you just want to side-track the whole issue...
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No one can side track it for very long. No one can refute the dismal outlook for the "legacy" of GWB.
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No one can side track it for very long. No one can refute the dismal outlook for the "legacy" of GWB.
He is a high functioning moron..
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He is a high functioning moron..
Can I use that? cause that's really good.
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I find anyone who places all of the blame for the economy on one person to be out of touch.

Until people realize all those bastards in DC, your State Capital, on Wall Street, in boardrooms and so on and so forth are the guilty ones, nothing will change.

We have seen the enemy and he is us. Americans are to blame for this mess collectively, not one single politician and not even the instituitions. WE have taken our eye off the ball and WE no longer involve ourselves in local politics and WE no longer demand accountability.

Americans need to look in the mirror...
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I find anyone who places all of the blame for the economy on one person to be out of touch.Americans need to look in the mirror...
Very true...and I hope we all remember that when Obama completes his 2nd term...
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Its Bush's fault. All of it.
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I find anyone who places all of the blame for the economy on one person to be out of touch.
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Americans need to look in the mirror...
Let's see.
Bush controlled the White House for six years with a Republican controlled Congress.
But the cause of this problem is a bipartisan "us"...
Yup! Par for course...

Sarcasm aside, I urge people to READ the article. It clearly talks about moves the REPUBLICANS and BUSH were responsible for, like changing the tax code in detrimental ways. Like changing the balanced budget to the worst deficit imaginable...

While I have no doubt that there is PLENTY of dual-party blame for the "housing" crisis, there are OTHER FACTORS that are at work here that should not be glossed over...
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