BLM bails out of San Fran gay pride event because of all the police who were coming

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 06-27-2016, 01:00 AM

Gays - Good thing the cops are taking extra security measures for our event...especially after the Orlando attack...

Black Lives Matter - Cops? We're outta here!...

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Sometimes the irony is too thick to cut with your average kitchen knife.

I’ve frequently wondered why the various single issue groups that make up the coalition which is the Democratic Party don’t fall into internal squabbling more often. Many of them really don’t have much in common beyond a simple, gauzy label of “progressive” to begin with. The anti-gun rights groups, the pro-abortion contingent and the anti-trade people really don’t seem to share much common ground, and yet they frequently work together to elect Democrats to office who generally don’t do much for any of them beyond paying a bit of lip service. But this year there’s been a definite battle brewing between Black Lives Matter and the LGBT community. It came to a head during the final planning stages of the gay pride parade in San Francisco this week. It turns out that BLM was essentially going to boycott the festivities because there were going to be too darned many cops there. (The Guardian)

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Several of the honorees of San Francisco Pride, the nation’s largest LGBT pride event, withdrew on Friday from the “racial and economic justice” themed parade and festival this weekend in response to the increased policing measures put in place after the Orlando attack.

“For us, celebrating Pride this year meant choosing between the threat of homophobic vigilante violence and the threat of police violence,” said a statement from Black Lives Matter, an organizational grand marshal; Janetta Johnson, a community grand marshal; and sex worker advocacy group St James Infirmary, a “Heritage of Pride” award recipient.

“We had a tough decision to make, and ultimately we chose to keep our people safe by not participating in any event that would leave our communities vulnerable to either.”

So after the shooting in Orlando, which many progressives are still claiming was about anti-gay bias rater than Islamic terrorism, there was going to be a significant police presence just in case some lunatic decided to try to shoot the place up. And Black Lives Matter responded by refusing to attend.

MrLiberty · #2 (**permalink**) 06-27-2016, 10:37 AM

Good post redd.

winston53660 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-27-2016, 11:00 AM

Bureau for Land Management popped into my head before Black Lives Matters did

40yearfan · #4 (**permalink**) 06-28-2016, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by winston53660

Bureau for Land Management popped into my head before Black Lives Matters did

Me too.

dabateman · #5 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 03:05 PM

I know I am late to this conversation, but I want to add that I am frustrated...

I have mixed emotions. I fully understand and respect the message BLM is trying to get out even if I do not fully subscribe to the methodology. There are countless cases where it appears police have used excessive and sometimes lethal force against individuals when it may not have been warranted. Additionally, I would assert many of those cases involved a black man being assaulted by the police. We MUST do something about this, but to paint ALL police as the bad guy boggles my mind.

I understand that I have privilege, never having been racially profiled. I understand that this privilege brings a different perspective on law enforcement. I understand that I cannot fully understand what it is like to be on the wrong end of this sort of situation.

However, I do know what it is like to be gay. I do know what it is like to be in a profession that has historically barred homosexuals from entry. I do know what it is like to finally secure rights and I do know what it is like to be proud.

BLM stopped the Toronto Pride Parade until the organizers promised they would not have law enforcement floats in the parade. And again, I get that law enforcement (in the most general terms) has not been super supportive of equality for black people. Hey... they weren't support of equality for gay people either (anyone remember or read about Stonewall?).

To me, it seems overly complicated to tell LGBT law enforcement officers that they cannot or should not march in a parade that shows and celebrates their attainment of legal equality. It also seems a bit problematic to tell general law enforcement "We don't need you." when Orlando had just happened and a guy with a car full of guns was stopped on his way to the LA Pride parade.

:/

I am torn.

lurch907 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

I do know what it is like to be in a profession that has historically barred homosexuals from entry.

You're a Hooters waitress?

dabateman · #7 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lurch907

You're a Hooters waitress?

Anything on the actual content?

lurch907 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

Anything on the actual content?

Lighten up, dude.

As for the article, in my opinion BLM's message is racist and the organization is run by imbeciles who seem to think cops shouldn't be able to use force to defend themselves against violent people simply because the thug has dark skin. The pride movement would be well served by putting as much distance as possible between themselves and BLM.

dabateman · #9 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lurch907

Lighten up, dude.

I'm good. I just didn't think it funny. I wish I could have chuckled but it wasn't even a good joke. :/

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As for the article, in my opinion BLM's message is racist and the organization is run by imbeciles who seem to think cops shouldn't be able to use force to defend themselves against violent people simply because the thug has dark skin. The pride movement would be well served by putting as much distance as possible between themselves and BLM.

Pointing out the high rate of lethal force used by police against black men when lesser force could have/should have been used is racist?

AZRWinger · #10 (**permalink**) 07-07-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dabateman

I know I am late to this conversation, but I want to add that I am frustrated...

I have mixed emotions. I fully understand and respect the message BLM is trying to get out even if I do not fully subscribe to the methodology. There are countless cases where it appears police have used excessive and sometimes lethal force against individuals when it may not have been warranted. Additionally, I would assert many of those cases involved a black man being assaulted by the police. We MUST do something about this, but to paint ALL police as the bad guy boggles my mind.

I understand that I have privilege, never having been racially profiled. I understand that this privilege brings a different perspective on law enforcement. I understand that I cannot fully understand what it is like to be on the wrong end of this sort of situation.

However, I do know what it is like to be gay. I do know what it is like to be in a profession that has historically barred homosexuals from entry. I do know what it is like to finally secure rights and I do know what it is like to be proud.

BLM stopped the Toronto Pride Parade until the organizers promised they would not have law enforcement floats in the parade. And again, I get that law enforcement (in the most general terms) has not been super supportive of equality for black people. Hey... they weren't support of equality for gay people either (anyone remember or read about Stonewall?).

To me, it seems overly complicated to tell LGBT law enforcement officers that they cannot or should not march in a parade that shows and celebrates their attainment of legal equality. It also seems a bit problematic to tell general law enforcement "We don't need you." when Orlando had just happened and a guy with a car full of guns was stopped on his way to the LA Pride parade.

:/

I am torn.

BLM marches and chants calling for killing police "pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon". No wonder they don't want police participation in gay pride parades, they hate the cops.

Stonewall was nearly 50 years ago, instead of following the BLM model where grievances can never be addressed or progress can never be achieved, the LGBT community ought to follow a path of equality instead of acting like spoiled children refusing to go to another bakery, etc. that welcomes their business.

The guy with guns on the way to the LA gay pride parade is gay himself and was going to support the parade.

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