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Old 10-23-2015, 08:12 AM
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Salt the OP comes to a poor conclusion. the NRAs honesty here shouldn't be taken as cutting the legs out of ONE reason for gun ownership.

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Statistically they are correct, and I am glad of that.
But I also know that in years of carrying a gun, that the odds are much higher, even if small, and I still hope I never have to use it.
But it is there if I needed it. That is why I carry.
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Odds are your house won't catch on fire so you don't need a smoke detector. Just go ahead and detach it and throw it in the trash.
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That is an incredibly long reach for a very small straw.
The odds of needing a defensive weapon are likely as small as winning the lottery. People still have the freedom to buy one.
The odds of a cop being assassinated while sitting quietly in his squad car on a public street, are also infinitesimal. Made even less so in that he carries. Still happens.
Would you suggest they also give up their right to bear arms?
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yes

This and other comments along this line I'm in full agreement with.

the fire extinguishers analogue is perfect IMO.
EVERYONE is encouraged to have one in their homes by insurance companies, mortgage companies, the Fire Depts and other gov't. entities and private groups.
very little chance of use by most and very little press when they ARE used effectively to prevent trouble.

Gun Ownership are a PREVENTATIVE measure. I've met people who never had to fire a shot where just SHOWING the gun stopped crimes and probably saved lives.

But fundamentally most gun right advocates approach the issue based on the concept of Self defense as a primary human right, and it's not the gov't's place to decide for everyone how that's to be accomplished.
I think this is what anti gun folk ignore. or minimized based on fear and faulty views of potential public safety.

What are the chances of mass shootings?
they are thankfully very unlikely as well.
should the ANTI ALL guns people stop mentioning that in there push for disarmament?
It's just an emotional button
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I'll also mention a tangental thought.


I'm for Gun ownership and strong personal and home defense.
I have the exact same few on foreign policy. that we have the right and duty to have a strong national defense.
the key term here is DEFENSE. It's why i appose the war in Iraq and Libya and troops scattered around the world and Drone strike willy nilly in any country at any time.

It's like me going to bad neighbors and randomly shooting gang members. And CALLING it "defense".
I'm well aware of why people will say "But that's Different!" .
Not really. It's really not.
If they come to our shores they DIE. if it's a foreign gov't we an go there and kill them. But al this other random "preemptive" killing and torture is BS.

Defense yes. pre-emptive killing, no.
pre-emptive killing and torture goes against our own views of human rights set out in the constitution.
human right God given rights recognized ---not created by-- the constitution. so this idea that human right don't apply to "foreigners" or "enemy combatants" or to "suspected" terrorist is just as ANTI constitution as ANTI 2nd amendment gun arguments.
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