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One of the persistent memes in the Republican line of attack against Barack Obama is the notion that he is an elitist, whereas the G.O.P. represent real working Americans like Levi “F-in’ Redneck” Johnston.
It caught our attention, then, when First Lady Laura Bush and would-be First Lady Cindy McCain took the stage Tuesday night wearing some rather fancy designer clothes. So we asked our fashion department to price out their outfits. Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600–$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
Passing through Chicago, I tuned in to Air America and heard the commentator say Cindy's dress cost more than his house. Actually her 300 thousand dollar outfit is based on a 3 thousand dollar dress and a 280 thousand dollar pair of ear rings.

My response?
I prefer Yves Saint Laurent fashions to O de la R, and if I was married to a senator, I would expect some cool jewelry.
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Passing through Chicago, I tuned in to Air America and heard the commentator say Cindy's dress cost more than his house. Actually her 300 thousand dollar outfit is based on a 3 thousand dollar dress and a 280 thousand dollar pair of ear rings.

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I prefer Yves Saint Laurnet fashions to O de la R, and if I was married to a senator, I would expect some cool jewelry.


Once again, people who defend the Obamas on the elitist charge are fooled again by logic...It is NOT about the money...

There are people making $5 million a year that you could sit down next to, have a beer, talk about the ball game, and then he'll accept your invitation to go down to the bowling alley to toss a few...

THEN there are people (Think snooty professors) that make $60,000 a year that believe because they've read Marx, Chomsky, and Alinsky (and you didn't), they have NO TIME for beer with such uneducated twits...They don't drink beer anyway...They order Zimas and white zinfendels...They look at the ballgame on TV and think "They don't look like "Giants"...some of them look quite average height!", then, when you invite them to go down to the bowling alley to toss a few, they laugh and say "I'd rather hear Rimsky-Korsakov with only one cello!"...and then they'll say something in French belittling you...

Now which one's the elitist?...

Hint...Money ain't it...
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Once again, people who defend the Obamas on the elitist charge are fooled again by logic...It is NOT about the money...

There are people making $5 million a year that you could sit down next to, have a beer, talk about the ball game, and then he'll accept your invitation to go down to the bowling alley to toss a few...

THEN there are people (Think snooty professors) that make $60,000 a year that believe because they've read Marx, Chomsky, and Alinsky (and you didn't), they have NO TIME for beer with such uneducated twits...They don't drink beer anyway...They order Zimas and white zinfendels...They look at the ballgame on TV and think "They don't look like "Giants"...some of them look quite average height!", then, when you invite them to go down to the bowling alley to toss a few, they laugh and say "I'd rather hear Rimsky-Korsakov with only one cello!"...and then they'll say something in French belittling you...

Now which one's the elitist?...

Hint...Money ain't it...
Just because someone is educated, well read, not into sports or beer, does not make them an elitist. It's a fear thing brought around by the likes of McCain who know just enough about the "beer set" to manipulate them into believing that Obama is so different from them...

The only reason Obama is different is personal preferences. When it comes to life, and how ones' life has been lived, Obama is closer to most Americans than they want to admit. He grew up in poverty or on the outskirts of his entire life. He had to deal with the single parent situation. He had to deal with some guy coming into the situation that wasn't his dad. He was one of the first latchkey kids. If you can't relate to that, you have issues. If you can honestly think you have more in common with a man who has at least seven homes but has forgotten how many he has, you go for it.

Personally I like for my leader to have a past I relate to and a present he can recall. Sorry John McCain, that leaves you out. But then again, maybe I'm an elitist.
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.............They order Zimas and white zinfendels...They look at the ballgame on TV and think "They don't look like "Giants"...some of them look quite average height!", then, when you invite them to go down to the bowling alley to toss a few, they laugh and say "I'd rather hear Rimsky-Korsakov with only one cello!"...and then they'll say something in French belittling you...

Now which one's the elitist?...

Hint...Money ain't it...
Zimas and white zinfendels?
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Just because someone is educated, well read, not into sports or beer, does not make them an elitist.
Nope, that's pretty much the test. Ben Franklin like beer: not elitist. Bill Clinton liked beer & Big Macs (and trailer park trash): not elitist. John Kerry: elitist. Barack Obama: elitist. Al Gore: elitist.

Being able to have a beer with and relate to the average American distinguishes one from being an elitist. Hell, I'd even go so far as to say Joe Biden: NOT elitist.

But I give you that there really is just as good of a litmus test to tell whether or not someone is condescending and thinks they're better then everyone else, and that is if they act condescending toward others as if they are better than us.

Barack does that. Even if he were to pop open a beer, he'd end up pouring it in a glass over ice and proceed to chat about tennis or something...
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Passing through Chicago, I tuned in to Air America and heard the commentator say Cindy's dress cost more than his house. Actually her 300 thousand dollar outfit is based on a 3 thousand dollar dress and a 280 thousand dollar pair of ear rings.

My response?
I prefer Yves Saint Laurent fashions to O de la R, and if I was married to a senator, I would expect some cool jewelry.
The other thing to keep in mind is that very often designers "loan" clothes/jewelry to high profile people to wear as a kind of advertising. Maybe they bought the clothes and jewels, maybe the designers offered them to them to wear. Also, this is Air America, not exactly the most reliable news source around.
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Passing through Chicago, I tuned in to Air America and heard the commentator say Cindy's dress cost more than his house. Actually her 300 thousand dollar outfit is based on a 3 thousand dollar dress and a 280 thousand dollar pair of ear rings.

My response?
I prefer Yves Saint Laurent fashions to O de la R, and if I was married to a senator, I would expect some cool jewelry.
$300K for a dress? The only expensive thing I buy is Ralph Lauren Polo cologne (in the green bottle, 4 ozs. for $50.00). Other than that, I buy my clothes at cheaper places.
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But I give you that there really is just as good of a litmus test to tell whether or not someone is condescending and thinks they're better then everyone else, and that is if they act condescending toward others as if they are better than us.
You mean like Sarah Palin or George Bush?

I don't drink beer, I've made good choices and am proud of my accomplishments. Maybe I'm an elitist as well, Or maybe I just take pride in the fact that I've made a good life for myself in spite of my messed up childhood, and feel I have at least some moral authority to open my mouth and give my opinions, and the confidence that when I do, it's not a load of bs that is coming out of my mouth. Sometimes it's not that you think you're too good, it's that people think that you think you're too good... happens to me all the time,
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Nope, that's pretty much the test. Ben Franklin like beer: not elitist. Bill Clinton liked beer & Big Macs (and trailer park trash): not elitist. John Kerry: elitist. Barack Obama: elitist. Al Gore: elitist.

Being able to have a beer with and relate to the average American distinguishes one from being an elitist. Hell, I'd even go so far as to say Joe Biden: NOT elitist.

But I give you that there really is just as good of a litmus test to tell whether or not someone is condescending and thinks they're better then everyone else, and that is if they act condescending toward others as if they are better than us.

Barack does that. Even if he were to pop open a beer, he'd end up pouring it in a glass over ice and proceed to chat about tennis or something...
Classic projection and stereotyping... Barack doesn't act better, he just tends to act more responsibly. You are going to punish him for that? Fine.

Has a good job, well educated, articulate, popular... MUST BE AN ELITIST. Stereotyping at it's finest. Something the Republicans have become champs at over the past two election cycles, painting men who have worked their way up as elitist while defending a man who was provided everything by his father. The definition of irony...
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Classic projection and stereotyping... Barack doesn't act better, he just tends to act more responsibly. You are going to punish him for that? Fine.
I don't know how he could "punish" him, but that besides the point...

As far as "Barack doesn't act better, he just tends to act more responsibly."...

*) He put "president" on the back of his chair in his luxury airplane as if he's already won and the rest of the way is just semantics...

*) In Philly, instead of stopping by Pat's or Geno's to take in a cheesesteak, Obama went to a specialty food store and sampled $100 Spanish ham...

*) “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?” the senator said. “I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.” - This was said in the middle of Iowa...a state that doesn't have a Whole Foods store in the whole state...besides...

"Customers and critics have occasionally referred to Whole Foods by the nickname "Whole Paycheck" because of the high prices of many of their products"...It's the "Mercedes of markets" that the farmers he was talking to couldn't even afford to go to if there even was one in Iowa...

And out of every vegetable or grain someone can think of when talking to farmers, he went with "arugula"?!?!?...I'm guessing 90% of the middle class in this country doesn't even know what the hell that is! (Add to that it's a plant that's not even local...It's found in the Meditteranean region, and only started being grown in America for less than 20 years)...

*) He has his convention speech on a set designed as a Greek temple...

*) He had his own presidential seal created...(went over like a lead balloon)...

*) He tells an upscale crowd in San Francisco that the middle-class workers in the midwest are bitter people and "cling to God and guns"...doesn't bother to say it to their face...
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