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Old 01-13-2015, 04:51 PM
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I take it you have never had a security clearence. If she did not need to know it was a breech of his duty to tell her. And really it was a breech of hers to listen, but that is a different matter.
Very Interesting Surly, Sounds like you know a lot about this. What did he tell her?
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Look. The general was getting laid in an extramarital affair. He is no threat to Obama. Obama is on hos final go around. The man may have broken the law or they wouldn't be recommending charges. You and I don't know the extent of what happened so WTF are we all talking about.

The point of this thread is the people in high office trying to cover for him and saying he has suffered enough. Lots of people who have suffered enough still face charges and the legal process. Look at Bob McDonald for example. I say let the system take it's course. That is the rules here in my country.
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NO. a military need.
Having dealt with secret and other classified government documents related to the US military about 90% of them are classified as secret for "political" purposes and not because they're actually protecting anything from disclosure. Often what's classified is common knowledge that the government simply doesn't want to confirm.

Of course the question wasn't about a "military need to know" but was asked in the broad context of any need to know which is what I addressed. I've also addressed the fact that none of this information was made public and so the "secrets of the US military" were protected.

As I've also stated I believe our government should be prosecuting those acting under the "color of law" that commit torture, illegal detention, and murder as a priority. This is far more important to me than technical violations of the law that harm no one including the United States government or US military.
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Look. The general was getting laid in an extramarital affair. He is no threat to Obama. Obama is on hos final go around. The man may have broken the law or they wouldn't be recommending charges. You and I don't know the extent of what happened so WTF are we all talking about.

The point of this thread is the people in high office trying to cover for him and saying he has suffered enough. Lots of people who have suffered enough still face charges and the legal process. Look at Bob McDonald for example. I say let the system take it's course. That is the rules here in my country.
Disclosure of classified material (alone without other crimes such as treason or spying) is limited by punishment of up to a $10,000 fine and/or up to 10 years in prison. The law doesn't require punishment but allows for it and places a limitation upon how much punishment can be imposed. The US government could fine Petraeus $10 and meet the criteria of the law.

As far as I'm concerned this can be a $10 fine and let's move on to prosecute those that are/were responsible for illegal detentions, renditions, torture and murder.
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Disclosure of classified material (alone without other crimes such as treason or spying) is limited by punishment of up to a $10,000 fine and/or up to 10 years in prison. The law doesn't require punishment but allows for it and places a limitation upon how much punishment can be imposed. The US government could fine Petraeus $10 and meet the criteria of the law.

As far as I'm concerned this can be a $10 fine and let's move on to prosecute those that are/were responsible for illegal detentions, renditions, torture and murder.
General Petaeus may not want to pay even a $10 fine. He may acknowledge that he cheated on his wife but not his country.
What we know from the leaked info and the follow up comments from Holder is that he has the authority and hasn't decided. I guess that would also include his decision whether to go ahead and prosecute the water boarders. He can do both, evidently. What is he waiting for?
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General Petaeus may not want to pay even a $10 fine. He may acknowledge that he cheated on his wife but not his country.
What we know from the leaked info and the follow up comments from Holder is that he has the authority and hasn't decided. I guess that would also include his decision whether to go ahead and prosecute the water boarders. He can do both, evidently. What is he waiting for?
Probably waiting for the end of the day of his last day in office.
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