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Michael Grimm is going to resign. But how does that effect a pension for congress? Just wondering how that works.
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Grimm could keep federal pension

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Embattled Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) could still be eligible for his federal pension even if he is convicted of one or more felonies — but only if he can hold onto office for about another year.

Grimm pleaded guilty Tuesday to one count of felony tax evasion that was part of a 20-count indictment authorities charged against him in April. The other charges include employing illegal immigrants at a Manhattan restaurant he owned before serving in the House, mail fraud and wire fraud.

Members of Congress are only eligible for federal pensions if they serve for at least five years. Grimm, who first took office in 2011, won't be able to receive a pension unless he manages to hang on through January 2016.
The Staten Island Republican, who coasted to reelection last month, maintains that he won't step down. But low tolerance among House GOP leadership for ethical lapses and pressure from fellow lawmakers could push him out.

Members of Congress and most federal government employees only lose their pensions if they are convicted of a federal crime related to threatening national security. Those crimes include disclosing classified information, espionage and treason. According to the Congressional Research Service, the law was first enacted in 1954 in the aftermath of the case of Alger Hiss, a State Department employee convicted of perjury while passing national security secrets to a communist agent.

And, under a separate 2007 law, lawmakers can no longer receive their federal pensions if they are convicted of corruption, election crimes or other misconduct that "directly relates" to their official duties while serving in office.

Other lawmakers convicted of crimes in recent years have also been able to keep their federal pensions, even while they served time in prison.

Former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.), who pleaded guilty to fraud and conspiracy charges in 2005, got to keep his pension. The same went for ex-Reps. Jim Traficant (D-Ohio) and Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.), who were embroiled in bribery and corruption scandals
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Might not have to worry about it...

Michael Grimm to resign from Congress: sources

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Rep. Michael Grimm plans to resign from Congress in the wake of his guilty plea on a felony tax evasion charge.

Grimm (R-S.I.) said after he entered his plea last week that he would continue to serve in the House.

But he reversed course after speaking Monday to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who has taken a hard line on Republicans facing ethics charges.

"The events which led to this day did not break my spirit, nor the will of the voters," Grimm said in a statement issued Monday night. "However, I do not believe that I can continue to be 100% effective in the next Congress, and therefore, out of respect for the office and the people I so proudly represent, it is time for me to start the next chapter of my life."

He said he reached his decision "after much thought and prayer," and that his resignation would be effective on Jan. 5, the day before the new Congress is sworn in.
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Yeah, I heard after meeting with Boehner he would be resigning. I just didn't know the pension rules.
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But low tolerance among House GOP leadership for ethical lapses and pressure from fellow lawmakers could push him out. (Quote from Cnredd's post)

Now here is the difference between the GOP and the DNC.....

The GOP will not stand for lawbreakers in their ranks.

The DNC on the other hand, just turns it's collective head, and looks the other way!

And there you have it....

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But low tolerance among House GOP leadership for ethical lapses and pressure from fellow lawmakers could push him out. (Quote from Cnredd's post)

Now here is the difference between the GOP and the DNC.....

The GOP will not stand for lawbreakers in their ranks.

The DNC on the other hand, just turns it's collective head, and looks the other way!

And there you have it....

Regards, Kirk
Do you know Darryl Issa is a convicted car thief? Bush a convicted drunk driver and in fact here is a long list for you. Seriously Kirk. People are people. You are not a better person because of party affiliation. Why did you need to start this? Why the need to feeli like you are a better human being because you are on the right? You guys are so self diluted it's sometimes scary.

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Do you know Darryl Issa is a convicted car thief?
Nope..Because he ISN'T...

Not So Grand: Behind Rep. Darrell Issa’s Three Auto Theft Accusations

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One fascinating side-drama of Rep. Darrell Issa‘s current conflict with the White House over the IRS investigation is the broadside launched by former White House senior adviser David Plouffe, who tweeted, of Issa, “Strong words from Mr Grand Theft Auto and suspected arsonist/insurance swindler. And loose ethically today.”

Plouffe was responding to Issa’s “paid liar” attack on Jay Carney, but his tweet might make people wonder how a guy gets elected to the U.S. Congress after being accused of car theft… three times. Here’s how.

It should be noted that David Plouffe is not a journalist, but if he were, his tweet would be considered a massive breach (or not), because it implies guilt where it hasn’t been established. Darrell Issa was never convicted of auto theft, or any of the other things Plouffe tweeted about, but it is fascinating that, in an age where an errant scream can sink your electoral chances, a candidate could survive three accusations of auto theft, including two indictments.
Besides the actual lie since there's no convictions, isn't it amazing that Liberals are so concerned with what happened with a Congressman in 1971, but should you question what Obama did in college during the 80s, well...you're just a hater...
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If I am wrong it was an honest mistake. But let us remember something here cnredd. I was not trying to make this partisan. I was simply asking a question about Grimms. Not for partisan reasons. I was only asking because I didn't know how long you have to serve to be given a pension. I wondered why he didn't resign earlier and was curious if that played any part. Like I said to Kirk, People are people. Some good, some not so much. It is hardly based on party affiliation. Both sides have heroes and zeros. That is my only point. The story about Issa and his need to take peoples cars has been around a while. I wasn't trying to trash anyone. So I don't know how I became a hater over these comments. But hey, It's your forum. Just so you know I don't like cats much.
Not to belabor the point but Issa is a convicted criminal.



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Nope..Because he ISN'T...

Not So Grand: Behind Rep. Darrell Issa’s Three Auto Theft Accusations

Besides the actual lie since there's no convictions, isn't it amazing that Liberals are so concerned with what happened with a Congressman in 1971, but should you question what Obama did in college during the 80s, well...you're just a hater...

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