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Old 12-17-2014, 10:26 AM
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These prices are too low for the Saudis. I will go with the experts on how much the sanctions have effected Russia. The right will lie and say anything to avoid giving this POTUS any credit. It's like a sickness.


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Putin is doing more to the Russian economy than anyone. He bet on high oil revenues to fund his expansion plans for regaining the former USSR hegemony in the region. The Saudi's are squeezing him and our citizens are benefiting from that squeeze on oil prices.

Except for indecisive hand wringing and allowing Putin to do whatever military conquest he wants, Obama has had nothing to do with it.
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These prices are too low for the Saudis. I will go with the experts on how much the sanctions have effected Russia. The right will lie and say anything to avoid giving this POTUS any credit. It's like a sickness.
You are such a desperate Sycophant for Obama.

The Saudis can pump oil for $10.00 if they want to. Besides, they are awash in our cash.

Our advantage today is that despite efforts to impede it, our Oil Companies have found ways to provide new energy sources right here in the USA. You tried, and failed, to prove that was Obama's credit. But it was, at least, a plausible fiction.
This argument of yours, is pure hokum.
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A blip on the radar. Kind of like the broken water main contributes to the flooding during a hurricane.
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A blip on the radar. Kind of like the broken water main contributes to the flooding during a hurricane.
Agreed. As usual Lurch, your analogy is spot on.

The OP reads, Is Obama destroying the Russian economy?

The answer is unequivocally NO. But he can take credit for not doing anything to save it. Small comfort to his sycophants, but desperate people will grab at any straw.
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You are wrong about Saudi oil price effects. You call me a sycophant but you folks on the right go to extremes to avoid giving this particular POTUS credit for anything. That is a sickness. Economists and other world leaders all claim the sanctions have been biting hard on Putin and his oligarchy. But the Right Wingers on a political forum in the US disagree. I think I will go with the facts and you two can use your imaginations.
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You are such a desperate Sycophant for Obama.

The Saudis can pump oil for $10.00 if they want to. Besides, they are awash in our cash.

Our advantage today is that despite efforts to impede it, our Oil Companies have found ways to provide new energy sources right here in the USA. You tried, and failed, to prove that was Obama's credit. But it was, at least, a plausible fiction.
This argument of yours, is pure hokum.
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Undeniably exists in your imagination, we non zealots want proof of Obama's policy impact. Absent proof it is just political cheerleading.

The US has always looked better than other nations. That is called American exceptional ism something Obama mocks. The fundamental transformation is all about reducing the US to just another nation among many.
I don't recall Obama ever mocking the idea of American execptionalism.

But I'm sure you have the proof for that in your heart. Just like when Obama mentioned transforming the country, that means literally whatever you want it to be.

Of course the US is great, but I'm saying we're looking even better within the specific context of recent economic events.
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I don't recall Obama ever mocking the idea of American execptionalism.
Obama reduces American exceptionalism to be no different than any other nation's belief in their superiority.
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I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.
Obama Promotes American Exceptionalism?

Got that? We think we are exceptional just like every other country thinks it is exceptional, like everybody gets a participation medal.

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But I'm sure you have the proof for that in your heart. Just like when Obama mentioned transforming the country, that means literally whatever you want it to be.
I just proved Obama mocks American exceptionalism, what is in my heart doesn't matter. Obama promised to fundamentally transform America if elected, we can judge by his unbridled expansion of Federal and Executive power what that means, once again not my opinion, facts.

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Of course the US is great, but I'm saying we're looking even better within the specific context of recent economic events.
We are better off than other countries, which we have always been. Wow, great praise. We are better off because Obama did as well as anyone could have, a meaningless standard.
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I don't recall Obama ever mocking the idea of American execptionalism.

But I'm sure you have the proof for that in your heart. Just like when Obama mentioned transforming the country, that means literally whatever you want it to be.

Of course the US is great, but I'm saying we're looking even better within the specific context of recent economic events.
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Opec lead by the Saudi's is what is dong in Russia, Obama has maybe contributed very slightly, but in no way can claim he is responcible. Even his advisor in the piece knows that, and say so...

This is more like a happy coincidence for Obama that anything else....

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"T-that business of yours......You didn't build that!"

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