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For many years, industry has stagnated the wage of the average worker while they pump more and more income into the upper crust.
What is the (implied) antecedent of the pronoun, "they"?

And how, exactly, do "they" manage to "pump more and more money into the upper crust"?
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Dale Hanson is an idiot and most of what he posts comes out his azz. He posts in a local paper here and is blasted daily for getting everything he writes wrong.

Gallup Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Want GOP Congress to Set Country’s Agenda, Not Obama | Washington Free Beacon

And just like that we blow another Dale Hanson article out of the water.
An interesting Gallup Poll.

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A new Gallup poll released Tuesday showed that the majority of Americans trust the incoming Republican Congress over President Obama to set the nation on the right track.

53 percent of respondents indicated they preferred Republicans in Congress to lead the direction of the United States, while only 36 percent preferred Obama.
Gallup Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Want GOP Congress to Set Country’s Agenda, Not Obama | Washington Free Beacon

Of course it is not an endorsement for the Republican Party agenda which most Americans are opposed to when we get down to the specifics. After the last two years of a "do nothing Congress" where Republicans opposed and blocked virtually all of Obama's initiatives the American People do have hopes that the Republicans might actually do something positive for America but we know that won't happen.

The last thing Republicans want to do is to "do something good for America" because that would make Obama look good during the next two years leading up to the 2016 presidential elections.
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As you responded to absolutely nothing I said, I'm returning the favor.

Do you deny that income transfer works in at least two ways?
Repubs are so terrified over "income redistribution" from rich => poor...
... but they habitually ignore the ACTUAL income redistribution which has been happening from average worker => rich.


U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928 | Pew Research Center
Top 1% Got 93% of Income Growth as Rich-Poor Gap Widened - Bloomberg
For many years, industry has stagnated the wage of the average worker while they pump more and more income into the upper crust.
I understand it is far easier to simply declare my comment irrelevant than to formulate a reasoned response. It seems even rudimentary class warfare eludes you, you skirt discussion of the massive welfare state then claim the so-called average worker is the victim of the rich as if government redistribution is equivalent to private industry compensation.
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The right conducts class warfare all the time.
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I understand it is far easier to simply declare my comment irrelevant than to formulate a reasoned response. It seems even rudimentary class warfare eludes you, you skirt discussion of the massive welfare state then claim the so-called average worker is the victim of the rich as if government redistribution is equivalent to private industry compensation.
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What is the (implied) antecedent of the pronoun, "they"?
And how, exactly, do "they" manage to "pump more and more money into the upper crust"?
I see your new tactic is a mindless dragging of the discussion down to minutia.
Asking for examples of "political correctness" that people should not need.
Asking people to explain what the pronouns in their sentences mean, even when it should be obvious to anybody with a simple understanding of economics.

And in doing so, you pose no actual argument. As such,

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I understand it is far easier to simply declare my comment irrelevant than to formulate a reasoned response.
As is often the case, your reply fails with reading comprehension.
I didn't comment on its irrelevancy.
I commented that you ignored everything I said and proceeded on a rant that would be better served by starting an entirely new post.


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It seems even rudimentary class warfare eludes you, you skirt discussion of the massive welfare state then claim the so-called average worker is the victim of the rich as if government redistribution is equivalent to private industry compensation.
Again, your reading comprehension fails.
"Class warfare" does not elude me. I'm talking about it and the steady desolation of the average worker salary.
THAT is the REAL class warfare that occurs in this society.
The FLIP side of the equation is the perpetual right-wing fear-mongering machine pretending that the uber rich are some victim of the government instead of recognizing the oligarchy our government has become.


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The right conducts class warfare all the time.
I'll be astounded to see if they ever admit it one day...
The only reason they'll ever mention the stagnating wages of the average worker is to try to blame it on Obama.
If they can't do that, they pretend it's the workers' fault.
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I see your new tactic is a mindless dragging of the discussion down to minutia.
Asking for examples of "political correctness" that people should not need.
Asking people to explain what the pronouns in their sentences mean, even when it should be obvious to anybody with a simple understanding of economics.

And in doing so, you pose no actual argument.
That seems like a rather bizarre response.

But perhaps it is really not so strange, given that you probably have no good answer for the question as to who, precisely, this amorphous "they" is intended to represent...
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That seems like a rather bizarre response.
But perhaps it is really not so strange, given that you probably have no good answer for the question as to who, precisely, this amorphous "they" is intended to represent...
Actually, it's a rather cogent response when recognizing that a certain conversation will do nothing but waste time.

If you can't work out, based on the obvious economic situation, who "they" are and there is no argument on your side that is furthered by your ignorance of who "they" are, then I see no benefit for me in wasting my time explaining it.


I often find it useful to redirect the conversation away from non-topical derailment back TO the topic. Such as...

The subject is "Americans Don't Support the Republican Agenda"
In talking about wages, that is one prime example.
In U.S., 71% Back Raising Minimum Wage
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