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Old 11-23-2014, 10:04 PM
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First plane I ever flew on was when I was 3 weeks old.

Best airports are are (IMO)
Hartsfield-Jax Atlanta
Cox/Dayton
Dulles
Dallas/Ft Worth
Logan/Boston

International (IMO)
Amsterdam Schiphol
Leeds Bradford
Manchester
Dubai International
Frankfurt
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Best airlines (IMO)
Northwest
KLM Royal Dutch
Lufthansa
Delta
Aer Lingus

I am terrified of flying and always have been, but it's the only way to get anywhere in the friendly skies.
Hartsfield in Atlanta is a disaster of an airport. H-shaped, whenever you fly into it, your connecting flight is always on the other side, and you have to take those escalator's down three flights, and the underground train. Always arrive breathless at your connecting flight, and Delta, which is the major hub carrier for Atlanta, never gets you there with enough time to avoid the race.

From "Airline Of The Year" in 1999, to the worst run airline in America by 2014, with strikes, pay cuts, elimination of gate and ramp agents, customer service agents, increased pilot and flight attendant hours, and their CEO pocketing the government bailout monies as his own personal bonus, plus a maintenance strike, Delta is the worst. Matter of fact, its own initials tell all.

Delta (Doesn't Ever Leave The Airport).

Best Airlines?

Jet Blue, Southwest (yea, I know, it's a cattle call, but they get you there on time, all the time); NWA (but they fly into some really tight and unfriendly weather cities); U.S. Air and Air Tran, which I believe is owned by United, and flies mostly out of Atlanta.

Best Commercial Airports

Hollywood-Fort Lauderdale
Charlotte
Pittsburgh
Midway (beats flying into O'Hare any day, every day)
Houston Hobby (convenience) ties with Jacksonville and West Palm Beach.

Most dangerous? San Francisco International and San Diego. San Fran because the runways are right at the end of the bay, and San Diego because the landing glides down from the mountains all the way over top of residential housing right to the runway edge. Met many pilots and most of them hate to land at San Diego, good thing the city has good weather all of the time, it would be a disaster with weather problems.

Heathrow and Gatwick in London are both dumps. DeGualle in Paris, wear a gas mask - the cigarette smoke will kill you in there.

Singapore Air tops my all time list of best airlines, but only flew it to Asia once, because only went to Asia once.

Lollie - know probably everybody has told you how safe flying is, but what you have is a phobia about it, not a fear I think. Had the same thing, wouldn't fly for years, until my job demanded it regularly. So I went to a psychiatrist and talked it out, he put me in contact with an American Airlines pilot, and they actually have seminar for fearful fliers.

The problem is, you probably haven't figured out the mechanics involved in modern aircraft, what is happening with the engines, wings, slats, struts, spooling the engines, technical stuff like that, which you hear when flying, but don't really know what it means.

The actual reason aircraft fly is simple to understand, wing shape and thrust eliminates weight. All you need is directional control. Check out the Bernouli Principle on the internet for information to understand how an aircraft flies due to reduced air pressure being exerted as airflow passes over the wing. Than get a motion sickness patch for behind the ear, and a slight .05 mg Atavan prescription to take the edge off your fear, which probably builds up before you even get to the airport.

The drive to the airport is the most dangerous part of any airline flight. BTW, pilots of modern jet aircraft never worry about weather or turbulance (which is rare). The only time turbulance gets attention is when the pilot comes on and tells the flight attendant's to take their seats. Plane bounces around a bit, but nothing serious, although passengers are uncomfortble. What commercial pilots fear is unexpected updrafts which can flip an aircraft in flight over, and although exceptionally rare, certainly isn't something one would want to experience, unless you are a fighter pilot....Good luck - STFN
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Met many pilots and most of them hate to land at San Diego, good thing the city has good weather all of the time, it would be a disaster with weather problems.
I don't think pilots hate San Diego because of the weather. It's because they have a horrible approach crossing many tall buildings.

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pilots of modern jet aircraft never worry about weather or turbulance (which is rare).
That is correct. I am afraid of turbulence, but pilots I have talked to don't care. It's no biggie.
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I don't think pilots hate San Diego because of the weather. It's because they have a horrible approach crossing many tall buildings.



That is correct. I am afraid of turbulence, but pilots I have talked to don't care. It's no biggie.
Try flying into John Wayne when the Santa Ana winds are blowing
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Try flying into John Wayne when the Santa Ana winds are blowing
Try taking off from John Wayne. Because of community noise restrictions the planes launch at a 25 degree angle instead if the normal 10-15 degree angle. It's scary.
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I don't think pilots hate San Diego because of the weather. It's because they have a horrible approach crossing many tall buildings.



That is correct. I am afraid of turbulence, but pilots I have talked to don't care. It's no biggie.
Didn't I write that in my post, that the approach into San Diego brings you down a long, slow residential and commercial glide, right to the end of the runways. It is a difficult and slow approach, at low altitude. If I didn't write that, it is what I meant. Flown into San Diego many times, never liked it......STFN
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Try flying into John Wayne when the Santa Ana winds are blowing
That would be more fun than the roller coaster ride across the Interstate at Disneyland. Isn't John Wayne the old Ontario Airport?.......STFN
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That would be more fun than the roller coaster ride across the Interstate at Disneyland. Isn't John Wayne the old Ontario Airport?.......STFN
I dont think so. First time I flew in there the winds were going strong and yeah it was quite a ride. This little girl on here first flight was sitting next to me. Talk about some white knuckles.
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