Not a drop of ego there. Me Me Me

I guess your Bible has no margin references to explain that one completely. See the second image.

I could do the same in the support of what bhkad is telling you up front. But why cheapen the Word of God.

Like the rest of the world you will find out the hard way, when it is at your doorstep.
Or maybe you could.......... Or you can see this as the Lords way of telling us we have NOT one excuse as He provide the answers!



Because this is just what is happening right now!



and your quote could just refer to this above.

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Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful. - Samuel Johnson.. (1709 - 1784) Faith is what mine is built upon..

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

But people haven't always interpreted it that way...
And there is a long history of people using the bible, including fixating on Jesus's statements, to justify all sorts of vile behavior. Misogyny, slavery, genocide, land theft...

And the point is not to vilify religion, but rather to point out how it can be used / abused.
To point out how it can EVOLVE into something else.
A new "context" is established.

Christianity has evolved faster than Islam. Kudoes.
My point is that condemning the ENTIRE religion of Islam is counter-productive.
Societally, if somebody were to unilaterally condemn the entire "Smith" family, the "Smith" family will fall in line and live down to the low expectations.
But if you address the ACTIONS, including condemning the behavior that is bad and praising that which is good, you can get a better result.

There is no real point in a unilateral condemnation of Islam beyond pompous behavior.

What is counter productive is defending a religion which speaks of death to the Jews then the rest of th eworld if it doesn't adapt to its teachings.
Even here in America they have their communities and for the large part don't even try to intergate with the rest of America. Now that and the fact to them Islam is their govt. tells me each one need to either take the oath again or leave NOW! And most would again lie while taking the oath again.

But that doesn't bother you? So let me ask you how correct is this speech?
Not Lou Dobbs but the speech.



I say deport them all unless they become Americans. And I'm including other races. If they left for our better way then make the damn grade to become more like us!

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All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful. - Samuel Johnson.. (1709 - 1784) Faith is what mine is built upon..

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

And how many groups died in the Judeo-Christian bible? Advocated by God?
How many Jews have died at the hands of people who picked up a Christian Bible at the end of the day?
Hitler's Christianity
Hitler's Henchmen and Nazi Sympathizers

This isn't about "defending" a religion as it is recognizing REAL MUSLIMS who deplore such terrorist tactics.
Don't you realize that THEY ALSO take Islam passages to justify their condemnation of such attacks?
Of course not. You just fixate on the Islam passages which are convenient to condemn Islam...

What is counter productive is to condemn the ENTIRE religion, even when some adherents to the religion REFUSE to accept such an interpretation.


With neighbors like you, can you blame them?

And furthermore, you're talking about SOME Muslims.
Why not criticize the ACTION which is critiquable, and PRAISE those who do not engage in it???


I am talking to a brick wall. It's like you have no capability to comprehend what I am actually saying.
The ACTIONS DO bother me.
I AGREE that we should condemn the flying imams. I BROUGHT THEM UP in the first freakin' place.
The ACTIONS bother me.

But at the same time, WHY do we condemn the ENTIRE GROUP INCLUDING people who AGREE with you that those actions are deplorable???


1) "assimilate himself to us".
I doubt we agree on what that means.
I grew up in a predominantly German community. Is that not "assimilated" enough?

2) The follow-on discussion explains to me what is being discussed by "assimilated".
Only ONE flag.
Only ONE (national) loyalty.
Only ONE language.
The first two I agree with unreservedly.
The last one I think everybody who comes here should be able to speak and read the native language. But my reservations come in solely on how I have seen some critique those who do not use English. (differentiating between being able to speak English, and choosing to speak something else)


And this is where I see you have firmly taken your own definition of "assimilate".
You aren't comfortable unless somebody is like you, to a degree of your personal choosing.

The words state "... he shall be treated on an exact eequality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of CREED, or birthplace, or origin."
And I can see you are already choosing to define what "creeds" are acceptable for "America".

Anybody who can THINK about my words will easily see that I am obviously NOT including a "creed" which claims they have to kill abortion doctors or kill Jews or "assimilate" others...
Obviously, our American heritage in how WE "assimilated" the people who lived here before us is more in keeping with how we should behave... The "American" way...

Perspective.
Condemning the ACTION and not blindly stereo-typing those who ALSO condemn the action with you...
That's all I'm asking for...

I'll return you to your deaf ears...

I guess you will get a surprise someday. Your backing a loser. The only race that doesn't have any imports unless they are for killing, doesn't have exports except rugs and IED's.

Think what you want. I said it and I'm not about to change my mind. You and the rest of the stupid world will learn the hard way.
When you can't question your religion then it will make you do as the leaders of it want. And we see just how the leaders think. They teach hate right here in America.

You do gooders are a blind lot. Now I'm moving on and unsubscribing from this thread. Some day I will drag it back up and taunt you with I told you so!!!!!!!!!!
And in less than 4 years I will! I give it 4 years for the writing on the wall to smack you and the rest of the do gooders right in the face!

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All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful. - Samuel Johnson.. (1709 - 1784) Faith is what mine is built upon..

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

Mat 10:34-36
Think not that I am come ... - This is taken from Mic_7:6. Christ did not here mean to say that the object of his coming was to produce discord and contention, for he was the Prince of Peace, Isa_9:6; Isa_11:6; Luk_2:14; but he means to say that such would be one of the effects of his coming. One part of a family that was opposed to Him would set themselves against those who believed in him. The wickedness of men, and not the religion of the gospel, is the cause of this hostility. It is unnecessary to say that no prophecy has been more strikingly fulfilled; and it will continue to be fulfilled until all unite in obeying his commandments. Then his religion will produce universal peace. Compare Mat_10:21.
But a sword - The sword is an instrument of death, and to send a sword is the same as to produce hostility and war.
----------Barnes

Ye - this is not the design, though it be the event of his coming, through the opposition of devils and men
-----Wesley

accompanied with his power, would produce peace in the consciences of men, and be the means of cultivating and maintaining peace among the saints; yet "peace on earth" in a temporal sense, whether in the world in general, or in Judea in particular, must not be expected as the consequence of his coming; so far from it, that he subjoins,
I came, not to send peace, but a sword. By the "sword" may be meant the Gospel, which is the means of dividing and separating the people of Christ from the men of the world, and from their principles and practices, and one relation from another; as also of divisions, discords, and persecutions arising from it: not that it was the intention and design of Christ, in coming into the world, to foment and encourage such things; but this, through the malice and wickedness of men, was eventually the effect and consequence of his coming; see Luk_12:51 where, instead of a "sword", it is "division"; because the sword divides asunder, as does the sword of the Spirit, the word of God.
---------------Gill

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"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
--Jonathan Swift

Ask that question again and end it with "in the last 200 years" and then ask it again with Christianity replaced with Islam...

That's the main problem with anti-Christians...

They're more than happy to equate today's issue of Islam acting like savages with Christians who did the very same thing....400 YEARS AGO!...

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O.K., O.K., O.K. I got it. A way to explain this. Pretend all the world religions are sects of Christianity. Got that pictured in your minds? Good. Now. The radical Islam dudes are the ones with the spiked Kool-Aid!

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"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
--Jonathan Swift

saltwn - excellent analogy!!!!!!!!!!

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