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What an idiot. How does such a moron get a tv show? I am confused. What does this idiot bring to the debate. I guess someone has to offer the complete morons view of everything.
I'm watching CNN. They say "Lets get Becks view" So the first question is about the T.Boone Pickins Idea regaring wind energy. The first thing out of Glenn Becks mouth was "The problem with wind energy is that we don't have a way to store the energy." This idiot doesn't understand that wind power isn't stored. Its run full time like hydroelectric. You don't store it. And then he goes on to blame the democrats for everything. I don't care if someone wants to debate ideas. But this guy doesn't even understand what he is arguing. But he somehow always finds his way back to blaming dems for everything. Or Congress as a whole. I wish they would give Sir Charles Glenn Becks show.
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The problem with not being able to store wind energy is what do we do when the wind dies down? Wind is unpredictable & unstable. There are already places that have had black & brown outs due to wind energy not being stable enough to continue power. If we could store wind energy when it's in abundance then when it dies down we could use that stored energy. But, as Glenn correctly pointed out, we cannot store wind energy. Where as other energy sources can be stored --- oil, coal, natural gas, etc...

It's not a short bus education. He was merely pointing out the obvious flaw with wind replacing other sources of energy.
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The problem with not being able to store wind energy is what do we do when the wind dies down? Wind is unpredictable & unstable. There are already places that have had black & brown outs due to wind energy not being stable enough to continue power. If we could store wind energy when it's in abundance then when it dies down we could use that stored energy. But, as Glenn correctly pointed out, we cannot store wind energy. Where as other energy sources can be stored --- oil, coal, natural gas, etc...

It's not a short bus education. He was merely pointing out the obvious flaw with wind replacing other sources of energy.
The idea that Pickins has is to build wind farms all the way through the wind corridor. and the coasts. There is always wind blowing somewhere in these ares. Here is pickins plan BTW
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I know --- I saw the video.

I agree with Pickens to a point.

I also agree with Gingrich's Drill here, Drill now, Pay less campaign as well.

The more energy we have the better.

Wind could make a great supplement but at this point I don't believe it can replace other sources of more stable energy.

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Texas, a model of wind power’s potential, now is a model of wind power’s pitfalls too.

Minders of the Lone Star State’s electricity grid had to cut power to some offices and factories Wednesday evening when the wind dropped—and with it, electricity produced from the state’s many wind farms. The green juice slowed from 1,700 megawatts to the trickle of 300 megawatts...
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That is why I said we need to give tax breaks to home owners who pay to remove themselves from the grid through home based energy. Most Homeowners can remove themselves almost entirely from the grid for less the $30,000
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The problem with not being able to store wind energy is what do we do when the wind dies down? Wind is unpredictable & unstable. There are already places that have had black & brown outs due to wind energy not being stable enough to continue power. If we could store wind energy when it's in abundance then when it dies down we could use that stored energy. But, as Glenn correctly pointed out, we cannot store wind energy. Where as other energy sources can be stored --- oil, coal, natural gas, etc...

It's not a short bus education. He was merely pointing out the obvious flaw with wind replacing other sources of energy.
Wind energy also has the opposite flaw. Recently, there was a call from the NW power Cos. to shut down a bunch of the windmills because they were generating so much power that the dams were having to run water over the spillways to dampen back their power generation. Bad news for the salmon runs downstream from the dams when this is done at this time of year. I beleive that this event is probably what Beck was referring to. The excess power was causing a problem that the power cos. weren't able to handle any other way than spilling water.

Wind energy is notoriously inconsistent, even in the best locations. Usually it's too little, but occasionally it's too much.
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Wind energy also has the opposite flaw. Recently, there was a call from the NW power Cos. to shut down a bunch of the windmills because they were generating so much power that the dams were having to run water over the spillways to dampen back their power generation. Bad news for the salmon runs downstream from the dams when this is done at this time of year. I beleive that this event is probably what Beck was referring to. The excess power was causing a problem that the power cos. weren't able to handle any other way than spilling water.

Wind energy is notoriously inconsistent, even in the best locations. Usually it's too little, but occasionally it's too much.
That's a good reason for wind farms everywhere in the corridor. There is an over all average wind rate I am sure.
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That's a good reason for wind farms everywhere in the corridor. There is an over all average wind rate I am sure.
No, there isn't. If it dies, it usually dies along the whole corridor. I do think that wind's a good way to supplement our power, but it's not dependable enough to have it be the backbone of our power grid. I'd love to see what I call "micro-generators" spread across the country. Small hydro generators that would work off of diverted water. Pull 10% of the water out of a medium sized river at the right point returning it a couple of hundred yards downstream and you can set up a 1-2 megawatt generator with ease. Do the same with irrigation canals and tidal flows. Set up "hit plates" in high traffic areas (foot and car) that pump hydraulic fluid through a generating system. There are a multitude of small source methods to generate power that can be installed in any number of places which could pick up a huge load of our power demands.
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