I was just considering this war in comparison to others. And did anyone notice that there is an effort to keep Americans from feeling this war. First, We are not paying for this war. We a borrowing because we don't want to stand by our convictions. Secondly, We don't want to face the cost in lives and physical destruction of our men and woman. We don't allow photos of the coffins. And the war comes in after the latest missing blonde. We are making our soldiers serve more time then expected because the administration screwed up. And now we don't want to pay for a G.I. bill

Our kids don't deserve this treatment. Maybe if more of us were involved we could stop the secret war. Bring it back in to the light of day.

Yes, by all means let's bring this war to the light of day. Of course for you that means that there's not enough bad news being spewed across the media, and fo rme that means that the media has far less bad news so they have stopped reporting. You want more negative reports from Iraq, I want more positive ones. I tell you what, let's ask the terrorists which one they'd rather see splashed across the TV - reports showing that they've been beaten and beaten badly or reports glorifying thier attempts to terroize people into submitting to them??

Let's start with this:
Hawijah’s literacy program gains national attention in Iraq
MND-B Soldiers detain known criminal, discover weapons in Rashid
UPDATE: One killed, 10 wounded in Adhamiyah car bombing
One local national killed, 10 wounded in northern Baghdad explosion
MNC-I Soldier dies of non-battle related causes (Baghdad)
Coalition forces capture suspected criminal in Karadah
Al-Qaeda bombing and foreign terrorist facilitation networks disrupted in precision operations (Bagh
Iraqi, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons caches, detain suspected criminals in Baghdad
MND-B Soldiers discover munitions in east Rashid
MND-B Soldiers detain three suspected criminals (Baghdad)
ISOF, IA detain eight suspected criminals, kill suicide bomber in separate operations (Ninewah provi
1 IP, 1 Iraqi killed; 2 suspected AQI detained in complex attack (Mosul)
ISOF capture three suspected terrorists, one SG criminal in operations around central Iraq
MND-B Soldiers seize cache in Taji
Al-Qaeda in Iraq networks degraded
ISFs, ISOFs detain seven suspected Special Groups criminals in two separate operations in Amarah
ISOF, ISF demonstrate capabilities through independent operations (Baghdad)
Ramadi, Fallujah SWAT capture three suspected AQI cell members near Fallujah
New school opens in Umm Qasr
MND-B Soldiers detain 5 suspected criminals (Rashid)
Iraqi Artifacts recovered near Ad Dwar in Salah ad Din province
IA Soldiers recover cache near Janabi Village
Local citizens help stop an IED operation (Baghdad)
Iraqis are safer after Al-Qaeda foreign terrorists networks thwarted
Video Available: More than 1,000 re-enlist on Camp Victory, Baghdad
ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons in Baghdad
Explosion kills 2 Iraqi civilians, wounds 1 near Yarmouk Hospital
MND-B Soldiers detain suspected IED maker in Rashid district
More than 1,000 re-enlist on Camp Victory, Baghdad
NPs, MND-B Soldiers confiscate weapons caches in Baghdad
Five wounded in Mansour District explosion (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldiers detain seven suspected criminals (Baghdad)
MND-C Soldiers recover cache near Abu Hillah
MND-B Soldiers seize caches throughout Baghdad
Al-Qaeda attacks averted across Iraq
Stage show highlights need for national unity in Iraq
Helmick takes the helm at MNSTC-I and NTM-I
Quick Reaction Force 2 discovers caches near Karmah

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Or this....
MND-B Soldiers seize munitions throughout Baghdad
MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal, find 2 caches in Rashid
Reconciliation in Salah ad Din continues to pay dividends
Coalition forces capture suspected SG criminals in Adhamiyah
MND-B Soldiers seize cache in Rusafa
MND-C Soldiers uncover cache near Ghertema
MND-B Soldiers seize weapons in Rashid
ISF capture five suspected Special Groups criminals in operations across central Iraq
National Police seize cache in mosque
One killed, 40 wounded in blast south of Mosul
IA, MND-B Soldiers find weapons caches in Baghdad
Iraqi, Coalition forces find 5 roadside bombs in Ninewa
Alleged al-Qaeda operatives targeted, captured
MND-B combat patrols net two detainees, munitions cache
IA, MND-C Soldiers detain four suspected criminals in village of Mushada
MND-B Soldiers detain three suspected criminals
ISOF, elite ISF units continue clean up operations in Amarah
Change of Command - MNSTC-I
New school symbolizes beacon of change (Baghdad)
IA, MND-B Soldiers discover weapons caches in Baghdad
ISF detain nine suspected AQI members throughout northern Iraq (Balad)
Iraqi citizens receive chance to start new lives
12/3 Brigade graduates from Unit Set Fielding
MND-B Soldiers seize caches throughout Baghdad
MND-B Soldiers, NPs discover weapons caches (Baghdad)
NPs seize cache in New Baghdad
New Besmaya obstacle course opens
Widespread operations strike al-Qaeda networks (Baghdad)
Iraqi National Police receive new Ford cargo trucks (Baghdad)
Leadership discusses reconciliation in Tikrit
National Police seize nearly 200 weapons (New Baghdad)
Iraqi forces detain AQI member, prevent attacks (Udaim)
British, Iraqi Army Soldiers build camaraderie through soccer (Basra)
MNF-I CG visits, recognizes outstanding warfighters in MND-N
NPs, SoI, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons, munitions in Baghdad
Coalition forces destroy Al-Qaeda in Iraq safe haven, financing
Al-Qaeda’s propaganda network thwarted (Baghdad)
ISF arrest seven suspected IED bombers (Baghdad)
Aegis Security teams are goodwill ambassadors (Kirkuk)
Iraqi forces detain AQI member, prevent attacks
Leadership discusses reconciliation in Tikrit
U.S. Army engineers teach IA soldiers vital skills (Tikrit)
National Police find weapons cache in Rashid (Baghdad)
Iraqi National Police deliver school supplies to children (Basra)
IA, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons, munitions throughout Baghdad
Iraqi Parliament President speaks at detainee release ceremony (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldiers, IAs discover two caches in west Rashid
Video Available: MND-B Soldiers release detainees
DoD Identifies Marine Casualties (Al Anbar province)
IA, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions in Baghdad

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

...or this...
MND-B Soldiers detain 7 suspected criminals, discover 2 munitions caches
DoD Identifies Army Casualties (Mosul)
DoD Identifies Army Casualty (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldiers detain known Special Groups criminal in Rashid
Iraqi Army finds weapons cache near Al Latif
Mahawil Emergency Response Unit detain 5 during air assault
IA, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions north, west of Baghdad
Al-Qaeda in Iraq networks suffer losses
Al-Qaeda “emir” of Mosul identified
Al-Qaeda networks keep decaying
Coalition forces celebrate transfer of 1,000 humvees to Iraqi Security Forces
MND-B Soldiers detain 3 suspected criminals in overnight operations (Baghdad)
Electrical sub-station powers up in Basra
Largest public works substation in Baghdad opens
IA finds weapons cache in Diyala Province
MND-B Soldiers, INPs confiscate weapons caches in Baghdad
MND-B Soldiers seize cache in Ameriyah following tip
Marines attacked by enemy force (Karmah)
ISF continue to clear Amarah of munitions
18 killed, 80 injured in Mosul VBIED attack
MND-B Soldiers detain key criminal leader (Rashid District, Baghdad)
Court of Iraq convicts, sends criminals to jail (Baghdad)
Citizen tip leads MND-B forces to seize vehicle with 9 IRAMs Multi-National Division – Baghdad PAO
IA Soldiers seize weapons in Sadr City
DoD Identifies Army Casualty (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldier attacked by EFP (Baghdad)
Coalition forces capture four suspected SG criminals during operation near Hillah
Coalition forces kill al-Qaeda terrorist (Tikrit)
Coalition forces target al-Qaeda in Iraq bombing, financing and propaganda networks
INPs, MND-B Soldiers seize 2 caches in New Baghdad
MND-B Soldiers kill 3 criminals following attack on convoy
VIDEO AVAILABLE: HMLA 367 Close Air Support (Baghdad)
Bombing cells disrupted in Mosul, Taji
MND-B Soldiers kill four criminals, detain 2, NPs find weapons (Baghdad, Rashid District)
ISF capture five suspected Special Groups criminals in separate operations
Iraqi Special Operations Forces capture suspected Special Groups criminal (Baghdad)
‘Nightmares’ help capture IED emplacers (Tikrit)
MND-N Soldiers attacked by IED (Ninewah Province)
2 militants injure selves in rocket attack (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldiers wound four criminals, detain 2, NPs find weapons (FOB Falcon)
Qudas electricity means life to Iraqis
110th Navy Corpsman Birthday
90 civilians wounded in Mosul blast
MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal (Rashid)
DoD Identifies Army Casualty (Baqubah)
Iraq Army detains 44, seizes cache (Hillah)
IA, INP, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions in Baghdad
Al-Qaeda leader killed in Mosul
Two Soldiers, 2 civilians killed in Sadr City explosion
Coalition forces capture four SG criminals, destroy VBIED (Baghdad)

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

..or this...
MND-C Soldiers attacked by small arms fire
Civilian contractor convicted at a court-martial (Baghdad)
IPs help clean up Basra
7 IPs, 8 citizens killed, 45 more injured during blast (Baqubah)
ISF detain 5 suspected criminals in Amarah
ISF confiscate weapons caches in Baghdad
IPs, SOI, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons (Adhamiyah)
Iraqi National Police graduate Carabinieri training (Camp Dublin, Baghdad)
Mosul engineers reinforce the fight
MND-B Soldiers prevent Special Group criminals from emplacing IEDs, kill six (Baghdad)
MND-B Soldiers detain suspected Special Groups criminal
Coalition forces continue to put pressure on AQI networks (Baghdad)
IA, MND-B Soldiers light up Baghdad neighborhood
ISF seize weapon caches, detain 2 (Amarah)
Engineers pass knowledge on to Iraqi counterparts (Tikrit)
Civilian contractor court martial date set (Baghdad)
Iraqi Army, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions in, around
MND-B Soldiers discover weapons, detain suspected criminal (Baghdad)
Iraqi Army maintains security on streets of Basra
Salah ad Din province leaders, Coalition forces discuss reconciliation plan
Engineers detain criminals (Tikrit)
Operations target Baghdad bombing networks
Special Groups criminals around Iraq disrupted
DoD Identifies Army Casualty (Hillah)
ISF, MND-B Soldiers detain two suspected criminals, find weapons
INPs, MND-B Soldiers seize several weapons
New facility to accommodate orphans, elderly
New facility to accommodate orphans, elderly
Iraqi Army consolidating spare parts logistics (Taji)
Al-Qaeda networks disrupted (Baghdad)
ISF clear insurgents out of Amarah
Al-Qaeda network in Mosul disabled (Baghdad)
Helping move Basrah forward (Basrah)
Iraqi Navy meets with Coalition forces to discuss future (Umm Qasr)
Coalition Force Soldiers attacked in Diyala
Iraqi Army soldiers discover multiple weapons caches in Sadr City
ISF seizes three major caches in Amarah operation
ISOF capture suspected criminal leader in Baghdad
Iraqi Army soldiers discover multiple weapons caches in
MND-B Soldiers confiscate munitions in, around
MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal, locate cache
ISOF capture four suspected ISI cell members
Security squeeze limits al-Qaeda in Iraq hiding spots (Baghdad)
Iraqi Army captures suspected terrorist leader, detain four others
Coalition forces transfer the 1,000th Humvee to Iraqis
Terrorist networks in Iraq weakened (Baghdad)
Iraqi child to receive life saving surgeries June 30 (FOB Delta)
Sharqat Emergency Response Unit detains three suspected terrorists, recovers cache
ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions throughout Baghdad
al-Qaeda hide out disabled (Baghdad)


... and that's just back to June 19.

The news is there, it's freely available, it's just not bad enough for the press to report on.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Yes. I have noticed that as well.

I also notice that FS's response in no way addresses your points.

He doesn't explain why we are not paying for this war with current tax dollars.
He doesn't explain why the administration is so cautious to prevent the cost in lives and physical destruction from being noticed.

We could post all sorts of OTHER tragedies in the world, like kids who aren't properly nourished (both here and abroad), and people who suffer from all sorts of disease and other tragedies.
But for some reason, the fighting in the middle east take the prime spotlight in THIS Republican focus...

Think of the war in Iraq as a "continuation" of Desert Storm. We agreed to remove our forces with the understanding that Saddam would honor the agreements he made that facilitated our removing our troops.He continually failed to honor those agreements by violating the no-fly zone and refusing to permit unfettered inspections.He was calling our bluff and lost his head in the process.

You've got to know when to hold em and know when to fold em. For Saddam the game has ended and hopefully a lesson has been learned.But wait,we have a new player who has taken Saddam's place at the table! His name is Ahmadinejad and he thinks his bluff will not be called. He also makes threats "bluffs" and soon he will have to lay his cards down as well. The issue of WMD's was only "part" of the equation and in my view,this sub issue was oversold as the "primary" issue by the BA.Granted,it's an important issue but not the only issue here.The WMD issue forced people to forget Saddam's past violations and when the WMD's failed to materialize people dismissed all of the other valid and ample reasons for taking action. If one looks at the "larger" picture one can then come to realize that Saddam posed a threat to freedom and humanity. He had to be removed from the table! Remember..we already accommodated him by letting him ignore the rules and his agreements.He persisted in his cheating and for a time,we looked the other way and that emboldened his bluff tactics and we called it.

Yes.."some" of us can be fooled by bluffs,that's exactly what Saddam and Ahmadinejad are counting on! How about you,are you going to fold because you were taken in by their bluff? Or..are you more like me,I support calling that bluff every time because there are more than a few poker chips at stake here.There has been an attempt to shape our destiny for us. These are evil men,not benevolent dictators.Yes,I'm cautious when it comes to pre-emptive warfare but one cannot rule this tactic out. There are times and situations that may call it into play and the war in Iraq can be justified when based on the evil history of Saddam's reign and his repeated failure to live up to his agreements. Do you want to take a chance with destiny and let these evil men hold every card when you've been shown that they cheat? If that be the case all I can say is that a fool and his freedom are soon parted!

We called Saddam's hand and soon...very soon..we will call Ahmadinejad's hand as well.

Faithful servant you missed the point. I would be happy with that news too. Whatever it takes to bring Joe blow's attention around. How about addressing the post instead of getting all defensive.
If the cause is just the fallen should be acknowledged and seen. And honored. Not hidden like something to be embarrassed about.

Why do you think they try so hard to hide the cost of the war from us? Why not just tell the truth? Why not pay our way? Its like we are being led by a car salesman. Its because its a sales job.

A little off subject ole buddy

I thought the war was the subject and that you were adressing several aspects of the war.Media coverage or lack of coverage,extended tours of duty.I'm addressing the "reasons" for the war and BTW..the surge is working and that may be why coverage has been waning.I hope we do see more coverage of the war and as good news keeps pouring in,I'm confident that we will see more coverage...