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Faced with soaring gasoline prices, agencies around the country that provide services to the elderly say they are having to cut back on programs like Meals on Wheels, transportation assistance and home care, especially in rural areas that depend on volunteers who provide their own gas. In a recent survey by the National Association of Area Agencies on Aging, more than half said they had already cut back on programs because of gas costs, and 90 percent said they expected to make cuts in the 2009 fiscal year. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/05/us...html?th&emc=th
You know something? I am usually a chronically positive person. But I'll be darned if this gas situation isn't getting downright grim!
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You know something? I am usually a chronically positive person. But I'll be darned if this gas situation isn't getting downright grim!
On a percetage basis, and certainly based on gravity of the economy, the late 70's crisis was truly that while this is just a scare.

The coming election is about the same things the 1980 election was about, with the exception that we've started this cycle with a Republican in office rather than a Democrat. If the Democrat is elected he'll have to show immediate and effective change, just like Reagan did.

In fact, Obama's 'change' will have to be more immediate, more impactful, and more sustainable than Reagan's. After all, he has the benefit of a Congress at his beck and call whereas Reagan had two houses against him yet still prevailed.

Obama must be a Messiah like his proponents claim, because it's all been set up for him.

Of course he's not the second coming so he will fail, and fail hard...
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On a percetage basis, and certainly based on gravity of the economy, the late 70's crisis was truly that while this is just a scare.
I hear what you're saying...
But at the same time, I can't help but think the storm isn't over yet.

I sincerely hope your words hold true in 5 years.
Until then, the whole "baby boomer" thing with an aging demographic will put a serious impact on the situation.
I don't see this issue as just a "gas" thing, but also part of a much bigger picture where our country's "average" age is growing older due to the "baby boomers".

George Bush made an attempt at improving our pension system in this country. And while some may have qualms about the way he wanted to do it, the end result (IMO) is like deciding that you won't use the Pawtuckett fire department, but then no fire department shows up so the fire rages on.
(And just to make it clear, that's blaming the people who helped make it so NO "fire department" showed up. Not condemning the President who tried to get some water flowing...)

The "gas" problem impacting the elderly is just the first signs of smoke. And the grass is very dry...

As for the rest of your post, I have to chuckle. This post is about the gas prices impact on the elderly, and somehow it's suddenly about Obama...

The current president is doing nothing about it. In fact, he "hadn't heard" about the $4.00 gas prices, and now I wish I had those back in my area...
The current president was present DURING THE ENTIRE RISE in gas prices, but let's not bother commenting on HIS actions (or inaction) on the subject...

But of course, let's talk about "Obama" so we can wait seven more months of this crap, and then blame HIM for it...

Maybe the elderly being impacted by not getting "Meals on Wheels" can be comforted by the fact that somebody is already blaming Obama's "presidency" for this...
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On a percetage basis, and certainly based on gravity of the economy, the late 70's crisis was truly that while this is just a scare.
I see that the other way round. We had more real income in the 70's than we do today.
The coming election is about the same things the 1980 election was about, with the exception that we've started this cycle with a Republican in office rather than a Democrat. If the Democrat is elected he'll have to show immediate and effective change, just like Reagan did.
agreed

In fact, Obama's 'change' will have to be more immediate, more impactful, and more sustainable than Reagan's. After all, he has the benefit of a Congress at his beck and call whereas Reagan had two houses against him yet still prevailed. Regan started out with a handicap, but he had a mandate the second time and the congress bowed to that mandate in a lot of things.

Obama must be a Messiah like his proponents claim, because it's all been set up for him. Do you think that was intentional? Or just a coincidence?

Of course he's not the second coming so he will fail, and fail hard...
One thing people will be glad of is that whoever is elected President, it won't be George Bush.
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I hear what you're saying...
But at the same time, I can't help but think the storm isn't over yet.
Probably isn't, but to this point it really doesn't compare to how bad the late 70's were. Gas lines, sweeping federal laws (I can't drive 55 anyone?), negative growth, high unemployment, high inflation ... you know, all stuff we certainly don't have here yet.

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George Bush made an attempt at improving our pension system in this country.
Unfortunately, the generation with no time to do anything other than rely on Social Security is too nervous to allow my generation and my daughter's to have a federal program that might serve us well.

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Maybe the elderly being impacted by not getting "Meals on Wheels" can be comforted by the fact that somebody is already blaming Obama's "presidency" for this...
Did I actually blameObama? It's the fault of the current President and Congress. Remember, Congress actually has worse approval ratings than the President, and there's good reason for it.

For the last four years or so the President has accomplished very little, and Congress has accomplished even less. Congress, for it's part, doesn't have the excuse of not being unified ... it can only sit around and say it didn't do anything because the President would have vetoed it anyhow (as if he's done that with any regularity).

All I'm saying is that when Obama comes into office he will not have excuses, but most importantly neither will Congress.

I fully expect that all wars will end, all soldiers will come home, and gas will cost $9.00 a gallon but it won't matter because we'll all drive solar powered flying cars.
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