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Yup the speculators are betting that the democrats and liberals can keep the oil companies from increasing the oil supply for the increasing needs of the world. To try to say that we cannot drill our way out is just as stupid as to say we could conserve our way out. Constrict the American companies right out of the market just like they have driven production companies out of America.
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Of course he won't say. That's because the costs of producing oil haven't risen, nor is there a shortage. Even the North Sea oil platforms are raising oil at less than $9 a barrel. and they're usually the highest cost producers. Even in the swamps of Venezuela, it cost on average less than $4.30 a barrel to raise.

What you see here is the same thing you saw in the last 'energy crisis'; a weakness in government policies and international relations, preventing any concerted effort to reign in price gouging. This is purely a huge money grab, probably a last gasp before the world economy tanks for good. 'Free trade' was anything but free, it was just another 'miracle' bubble of tax subsidies and massive, unconscionable labor racketeering run on an international scale.

We're just repeating history here.
So you agree that this is a ripoff. And you agree it is market manipulation in order to benefit the oil companies and speculators.
Then what in the Hell does giving up ANWAR do? Or more off shore leases?

The smartest thing we could do as a nation is to break our oil habit. It invades all we do. It will cause wars soon. It has before. It would be the smartest thing we have ever done. Every patriotic American should push for alternatives. We should be the leader in new technologies. And we should spend government money to help make it happen. We spent money to educate the WWII soldiers and it paid off for us until today. Now those folks are dying off and we don't seem to know what to do. Well we should do like that generation did. Take the bull by the horns and get busy.

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Yup the speculators are betting that the democrats and liberals can keep the oil companies from increasing the oil supply for the increasing needs of the world. To try to say that we cannot drill our way out is just as stupid as to say we could conserve our way out. Constrict the American companies right out of the market just like they have driven production companies out of America.
I would almost agree with you if it were not for the facts that this isn't an oil shortage issue. It may be some day. But it isn't now.
And on conservation. I disagree. We just don't want to change our life styles. I would bet we waste at least 25% of the oil we use. I spend time in countries that pay far more for gas then we do. They drive more economical cars then we do. Their economies are stronger then ours right now. And they are in the same "Crisis" as we are. So what is the difference? Is it Democrats and liberals? Or is it with those who refuse to change their habits?

This is a manufactured crisis in order to obtain cheap leases, tax breaks, and a lowering of environmental standards and permit fees. That is all that this is about.
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I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!

We're all part of the same hypocrisy and we all share the same addiction to cheap oil and driving freedom.We cheer while viewing NASCAR races and we don't care how much fuel they burn.We fly to exotic places on a whim but now these freedoms have become much more expensive but it's always the other guys fault when it comes to higher prices at the pump. Well..it's our fault as well and speculation should be reigned in.We want to change things but first you've gotta get mad,I want you to stand in front of a mirror and yell,I'm as made as hell and I'm going to make changes in my driving habits and speculators should be investigated. When they want to build that new power plant down the street,embrace it,don't oppose it by saying NIMBY...not in my back yard.
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