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Old 07-29-2013, 08:24 AM
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Do you care whether your police force sport tattoos or not. Does it affect your opinion of them. Are tattoos ok on police, but not perhaps on your bank manager, accountant, doctor or dentist. What is your opinion of them?





Your tattoo is not Pc, officers told

A police force has ordered officers to cover their tattoos and to wear a shirt and tie, in an effort to raise standards.

In a letter to all officers and staff at Surrey Police, Lynne Owens, the Chief Constable, acknowledged that the decision on tattoos would be “controversial” for some, but said the force’s “reassuring, authoritative presence is inextricably linked to our standard of dress”.

The new dress code follows an internal review and has been summarised in a booklet for officers. The document says that tattoos should be covered with long-sleeved shirts, make-up or flesh-*coloured plasters.

White shirts, ties and office trousers must be worn by all uniformed staff when they are not wearing body armour — for example, when they are in an office-based role or attending court or meetings.

The code also includes guidelines for officers and staff who do not work in uniform to “give greater clarity and consistency around the dress standards expected”.

Mrs Owens, a former Assistant Commissioner with the Metropolitan Police, said: “I firmly believe that our ability to deliver a first-rate standard of service to the public and be seen as a reassuring, authoritative presence is inextricably linked to our standard of dress, and this is why I have updated our policy. It is important that staff are clear as to what is expected of them and the policy ensures clarity and consistency for all.”

She said she expected senior officers to “lead by example” and “challenge anyone whose dress and overall appearance doesn’t correspond with the professional image”.

She added: “I know you will join with me in making sure the way we look says that we are proud to be a member of Surrey Police.”

The dress code is being rolled out at the beginning of next month.
Tattoos have grown in popularity in recent years and the total number in Britain is now put at 200 million.

Among those to have one is Samantha Cameron, the Prime Minister’s wife, who has a dolphin design on her ankle.

Felicity Kendal, the actress, 66, had her first three years ago and now has two: a star, representing her younger son, and a moon with feathers, which symbolises her elder son and grandchildren.

Your tattoo is not Pc, officers told - Telegraph
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: From UK: Police asked to cover up their tattoos.

I have no problems with tatoos or piercings or any other body modifications anyone else wants to do. I do understand how the vast majoity of the population thinks it is not professional, and therefore buisness and others wants to stay away from anything that appears nonprofessional. I think the problem is in the eye of the beholder.
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I have no problems with tatoos or piercings or any other body modifications anyone else wants to do. I do understand how the vast majoity of the population thinks it is not professional, and therefore buisness and others wants to stay away from anything that appears nonprofessional. I think the problem is in the eye of the beholder.

When you're dealing with the public, you are dealing with "the eye of the beholder". If I running a retail establishment and had choice between two equally qualified employees, one with visible tats and one without, I'd go with the one without the tats. Few people seek out tattoo-friendly businesses, but a lot more will avoid them (given two equal choices). I'm not a big fan of tattoos because I see people who can't afford groceries for thier kids walking around with thousands of $$$ in ink. They also represent a short-term approach to life where what you want now takes precedence over how that can effect you in the future.

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I also think that for a lot of people tats are a way of trying to control other people's perception of them. They put a statement in ink on thier body to tell people who they are and what they believe in. Who they really are and believe may or may not line up with the ink, but they make sure to let you know what it is they want you to believe.
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When you're dealing with the public, you are dealing with "the eye of the beholder". If I running a retail establishment and had choice between two equally qualified employees, one with visible tats and one without, I'd go with the one without the tats. Few people seek out tattoo-friendly businesses, but a lot more will avoid them (given two equal choices). I'm not a big fan of tattoos because I see people who can't afford groceries for thier kids walking around with thousands of $$$ in ink. They also represent a short-term approach to life where what you want now takes precedence over how that can effect you in the future.

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I also think that for a lot of people tats are a way of trying to control other people's perception of them. They put a statement in ink on thier body to tell people who they are and what they believe in. Who they really are and believe may or may not line up with the ink, but they make sure to let you know what it is they want you to believe.
I think it is more generational than it is general. Generation X, XY, and the Millennials tend not to care as much. I'm generation XY which is that quasi generation ill defined with traits of X and the Millennials. I don't care if someone has visible tattoos AS LONG AS they COULD be reasonably covered up if necessary. So that means no tats on the face, neck, and hands.

If someone has a sleeve, that's fine. If you are wearing a polo and shorts and I see your tats, no big deal. If you are wearing a suit, and I can see your tats, probably an issue.
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I think it is more generational than it is general. Generation X, XY, and the Millennials tend not to care as much. I'm generation XY which is that quasi generation ill defined with traits of X and the Millennials. I don't care if someone has visible tattoos AS LONG AS they COULD be reasonably covered up if necessary. So that means no tats on the face, neck, and hands.

If someone has a sleeve, that's fine. If you are wearing a polo and shorts and I see your tats, no big deal. If you are wearing a suit, and I can see your tats, probably an issue.
What is your opinion on a police office with a sleeve. How would you regard him/her as opposed to one without. Would you feel the same amount of confidence and respect for them?
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Love tats.

But something so superficial has zero bearing on my opinion about a person's abilities and/or my confidence or respect for them. That would be stupid. That would be like assuming a person is better or worse at their job due to their hair color, or whether or not they have a tan. My respect for or confidence in a person isn't based on something so benign.
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What is your opinion on a police office with a sleeve. How would you regard him/her as opposed to one without. Would you feel the same amount of confidence and respect for them?
No difference to me really. He earned his badge just like the guy without tats. In SOME ways I have more comfort dealing with an officer that has tats because it is proof he is human. Something more than just a guy with a badge.
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Default Re: From UK: Police asked to cover up their tattoos.

It doesn't bother me, although I understand the police want a professional look, much like the military is cracking down on tats.
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Default Re: From UK: Police asked to cover up their tattoos.

One of the things I don't understand is that with current technology in this kind of thing, why they haven't come up with inks that are designed to react to laser removal or possibly even a chemical removal. Such an ink would be a massive boon to the tattoo industry since you'd have people getting tattooed, re-tattooed and re-re-re-re-re-re tattooed. If the guy misspells your boyfriend's name, you simply wipe on some "Compound T" and it goes away and the artist fixes it. If you break up with your girlfriend, you get her name removed.
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In thinking about it, tats on cops don't bother me nearly as much as a young lady with piercings all over her face and tattoos all over her arms. Truthfully, the same goes for young guys. Tattoos belong on drunken sailors.
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