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Old 07-17-2013, 02:11 PM
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So why didn't you just say that?
You didn't answer my question:
Did you expect any different response?

One of the amusing things about some of these threads is that people overlook the obvious shared thoughts. A typical response on both sides of the fence is to dive into the area of dispute.
For example, with a hypothetical thread on killing gays in Uganda and blaming some Christian pastors for it, I can whole-heartedly understand why some on the right would jump in objecting to the blaming of the Christian pastors. In doing so, I would understand that the typical unspoken opinion is that killing gays is wrong.

I've seen this in other ways as well where a thread gets started in something we on the right and left can unilaterally condemn. But then the thread quickly gets taken over with comments proclaiming the opinion of the opposite side to be something else, so THAT becomes the focus instead...


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You and I are 180 degrees on our political beliefs, but that doesn't mean I won't listen to your opinion. It's just when I have to wade through 5,000 words of extraneous materials to get to your thoughts on the matter, I tend to lose my concentration and get frustrated.
I don't see the point of you "wading through 5,000 words" to inevitably ignore those 5,000 words.
I don't see the point in me caring about you being frustrated when you just essentially admitted you are ignoring what I'm actually saying. When you are essentially admitting you don't care about what I am actually saying...

If you find you ignore most of what I say, why do you bother reading my posts?
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You didn't answer my question:
Did you expect any different response?

One of the amusing things about some of these threads is that people overlook the obvious shared thoughts. A typical response on both sides of the fence is to dive into the area of dispute.
For example, with a hypothetical thread on killing gays in Uganda and blaming some Christian pastors for it, I can whole-heartedly understand why some on the right would jump in objecting to the blaming of the Christian pastors. In doing so, I would understand that the typical unspoken opinion is that killing gays is wrong.

I've seen this in other ways as well where a thread gets started in something we on the right and left can unilaterally condemn. But then the thread quickly gets taken over with comments proclaiming the opinion of the opposite side to be something else, so THAT becomes the focus instead...



I don't see the point of you "wading through 5,000 words" to inevitably ignore those 5,000 words.
I don't see the point in me caring about you being frustrated when you just essentially admitted you are ignoring what I'm actually saying. When you are essentially admitting you don't care about what I am actually saying...

If you find you ignore most of what I say, why do you bother reading my posts?
To answer your question, if I had known what your response was going to be, I wouldn't have asked the question. I don't waste my time being wordy and scatterbrained.

As to why I read your posts---good question. In my quest for knowledge, I never totally disregard anyone. Apparently you are not interested in debating, you just want to hear yourself talk. Have at it. Maybe one of these days when you get a little older, you'll mature and actually say something worth listening to.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:22 PM
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To answer your question, if I had known what your response was going to be, I wouldn't have asked the question. I don't waste my time being wordy and scatterbrained.
I didn't ask you if you knew what my response was going to be.
I asked if you expected it to be something different.
Do you think ANYBODY here is looking at the Marley Lion case which doesn't have an opinion similar to the one I gave?

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As to why I read your posts---good question. In my quest for knowledge, I never totally disregard anyone. Apparently you are not interested in debating, you just want to hear yourself talk. Have at it. Maybe one of these days when you get a little older, you'll mature and actually say something worth listening to.
Honestly 40yearfan, you're responses are so full of s**t your eyes must be brown.
You whine about "spin" as you provide your own. Insist that your perspective must be acknowledged and discussed while you ignore other people's comments with flimsy excuses.

I talk about the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, and you jump in insisting that I'm discussing the wrong thing.

I AM interested in debate, but you are not. You habitually look for reasons to disregard the statements of others.
One consistent conclusion I have come to is that you are repeatedly interested in derailing threads which you don't like where they are going...

You have shown in the past that you don't want to discuss the topic with me, and I understand fully that you will easily devolve to that state again. The only reason you stopped talking to me is because I spanked you with your own link admitting that it was a voting bill which you were trying to obfuscate.

So to sum it up, if all you're going to do is give b.s. excuses, don't bother to "read" my posts. Cause you don't even try to respond to the points made and then you try to blame me cause you get lost.
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I didn't ask you if you knew what my response was going to be.
I asked if you expected it to be something different.
Do you think ANYBODY here is looking at the Marley Lion case which doesn't have an opinion similar to the one I gave?


Honestly 40yearfan, you're responses are so full of s**t your eyes must be brown.
You whine about "spin" as you provide your own. Insist that your perspective must be acknowledged and discussed while you ignore other people's comments with flimsy excuses.

I talk about the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, and you jump in insisting that I'm discussing the wrong thing.

I AM interested in debate, but you are not. You habitually look for reasons to disregard the statements of others.
One consistent conclusion I have come to is that you are repeatedly interested in derailing threads which you don't like where they are going...

You have shown in the past that you don't want to discuss the topic with me, and I understand fully that you will easily devolve to that state again. The only reason you stopped talking to me is because I spanked you with your own link admitting that it was a voting bill which you were trying to obfuscate.

So to sum it up, if all you're going to do is give b.s. excuses, don't bother to "read" my posts. Cause you don't even try to respond to the points made and then you try to blame me cause you get lost.
Why do you insist on arguing with yourself. I asked a question because I didn't know the answer. The fact that you want to over analyze everything is your problem, not mine.

When you start with the name calling and snot nosed comments, I just turn you off. You have an anger problem and I refuse to step down to your level and grovel in the mud with you. Seek help.
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Why do you insist on arguing with yourself. I asked a question because I didn't know the answer. The fact that you want to over analyze everything is your problem, not mine.
When you start with the name calling and snot nosed comments, I just turn you off. You have an anger problem and I refuse to step down to your level and grovel in the mud with you. Seek help.
Anybody who follows our conversations can see that you're the pot calling the kettle black on this. I've got more than plenty examples of your insults
You can lie all you want about this but history proves you wrong...
I'm going to finish with your derailing attempts and get back to the topic of this thread now...


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Instead of retreating into you usual cocoon of racial pandering it would be refreshing if you'd actually speak to the circumstances of the cases. There is no evidence that Lion posed any kind of threat to his killer but that is clearly not the case with Zimmerman. But pontificating about racism in the greater society is far easier than looking at individual cases.
I DID speak to the circumstances of the cases.
THAT is why "Marley Lion" will most likely be different.
1) You won't see a week+ go by with the police department proclaiming "nothing to see here. we don't think any laws were broken and that's good enough"

2) Marley's killers most likely won't be receiving a "not guilty" verdict after (hypothetically) admitting they shot him.
If you're interested in adding a #3, we can add "3) Lion posed no threat to his killer, whereas Zimmerman's case indicated he was assaulted before he killed unarmed Trayvon"

But #3 has nothing to do with the original item posed in the first post's picture.
"This story never made it past the local news. You tell me... What is the difference?"

That is the question I answered with #1 and #2.
It's amusing that I am DIRECTLY ANSWERING the question in the original post, yet repeatedly the right doesn't want to see that question answered...
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Anybody who follows our conversations can see that you're the pot calling the kettle black on this. I've got more than plenty examples of your insults
You can lie all you want about this but history proves you wrong...
I'm going to finish with your derailing attempts and get back to the topic of this thread now...
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Seriously, how old are you?
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Seriously, how old are you?
I've told you repeatedly.
I'm not interested in your attempts to make me the topic.

If you want to discuss the topic, let's do that.
STOP trying to derail the topic.
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I've told you repeatedly.
I'm not interested in your attempts to make me the topic.

If you want to discuss the topic, let's do that.
STOP trying to derail the topic.
I'm derailing the topic? Wow!!!
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I'm derailing the topic? Wow!!!
Please explain how my original post was not topical, or how you justify classifying it as a "tangent".
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/ope...tml#post578165
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Please explain how my original post was not topical, or how you justify classifying it as a "tangent".
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/ope...tml#post578165
The OP made the point that the Marley Lion got no main stream media coverage and asked why. The only mention of that case in your whole tirade was this:

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THAT is why "Marley Lion" will most likely be different.
Instead you have to run on about how bad conservatives are. You completely lost track of the original question. Of course, I shouldn't be surprised. This is your SOP.
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