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This is a script I'm working on for a YouTube video. I keep procrastinating making it, so I thought I'd share it here:

I accept and support what we do as a society. It’s funny, I bet you think I’m really ignorant for saying that or that it’s some sort of derpy derp sort of thing, or that I’m hateful, or that I’m religious. I bet you think I’m some sort of blindly patriotic buffoon. Sure, there are a lot of things that could be made better in our culture, but in general I like our way of life. I like the quality of life we’re able to enjoy. I love our technology, our medical care, our advances, our life expectancy. I love huge grocery stores with insane variety. I love shopping malls. I love NewEgg.com I love cheesy commercials that advertise undefined products. I love movies and special effects. I love innovative music. I love international food. I love pop culture. I love underground culture. I love atheist culture. I love Christian culture. I LOVE living here in this country, and I feel VERY very fortunate to have been born in such a prosperous country, whether it has major problems or not. I’m very lucky, and so is everyone else who is ABLE to watch and create videos here on YouTube.

Now, everything I’ve said so far still doesn’t show anything deep in any way, it doesn’t show that I understand the dark side of our culture, so let me explain:

Our society, our culture, and our government are based on 3 concepts: Ownership, control, and manipulation. If we try to actually take down any of those concepts, those pillars, the other two will fall with it and we can kiss our society and everything we love about it goodbye.

Ownership is very obvious. Keepin’ up with the Jonse’s. Consumerism. We think we can own anything. We used to think we could own people, but we finally did away with that… or did we. Many people still treat their children as property. Marriage is basically people becoming property of each other. Either way, we’ve put restrictions on ownership, but we’ve never attempted to get rid of it altogether and we hopefully never will because if we did, we’d be done.

Control is pretty self-explanatory. We want to control what is around us. We think we have the right to control just about anything—and rightly so, we wouldn’t enjoy most of the things we enjoy if people didn’t think they had control. Over the years, we’ve learned that we need to put some minor restrictions on control.

Manipulation, it’s by far the most important. We manipulate the earth to get minerals and to gather plant materials, all to subtract from and add to and modify and change into the things we currently enjoy. Our ability to manipulate shows our intelligence through all the things we create. We also manipulate other people, it’s part of the whole reason why people have needless drama all the time.

But these three pillars are a necessary part of our culture. We can work around these pillars, knowing they’re there, we can reduce the negative effects those pillars have, but we can’t eliminate any of them. We’re stuck with them and we might as well face it and embrace it as much as we can.

Groups like Peta are horrible. They’re terrorists as far as I’m concerned. But the messages that they often say about how we look at animals is actually totally correct. Pets are slaves—yes, people love their pets, but I’m sure there were many slave owners who loved their slaves as well. Am I against pet ownership? No. Am I for human slave ownership? HELL NO! Now do I even have to mention factory farming? We do some crazy things—but this view we have of animals is simply part of our culture. We can reduce the negative effects of this by raising animals in more humane conditions, we can do a number of things, but for the most part, our society is still going to look at other animals the same way we do now. It’s kind-of a Christian thing, unfortunately. I simply accept the things that we do. The thing is, we do it to plants as well, we do it to everything—we shouldn’t feel like we’re singling out animals with this, and really, we shouldn’t feel bad about it at all because you wouldn’t be watching this video if we didn’t do this type of thing.

Then of course there’s the way we look at other cultures. We see other cultures as something to manipulate and control. The war on terror is a really good example of this. We might want to work on that a little bit, we might want to regulate our behavior just a little bit in that area. That’s an area we should significantly curb. We need to stop digging into other cultures. We get mad when people do it to us, why shouldn’t they get mad when we do it to them?

I don’t want this society to collapse. I don’t want a new government. I want to make what we have continue to work as society and culture becomes more enlightened and more open.

I think most people just want society to keep going, most people here are going to try to defend our way of life, but I don’t think they’re thinking about the real basics of what they’re actually defending, and that’s OK, at least they’re still defending it.

Christianity fully supports these three pillars, in fact, it’s part of why they’re so strong here. Most religions are at least tolerant of them. Islam isn’t one of them, which is why I’m so concerned about it. The goal in Islam seems to be for all those pillars to get taken down and replaced with values from the Koran. There is no more ownership, there is no more manipulation, there is no more freedom, and control is replaced with submission to an invisible man in the sky. To Islam, our way of life is looked at as the most disgusting, most vile thing out there, and the truth is, it DOES have some pretty awful things about it, but it’s OUR way of life and I’m going to defend it. It’s certainly better than cutting off people’s hands and stoning people for ridiculously trivial matters because of some bull**** dogma.

This is going to be harsh, but to me, if people want to get rid of those pillars, they need to move to another country that has a different set of pillars. If someone’s primary reason for wanting to come here is to fundamentally change our culture, they should never step on that plane in the first place. If you want to completely destroy our culture, get the **** out of this country!

Anyway… There are a LOT of people out there who see little bits and pieces of these things that we do, sometimes they even see the whole picture, and they become radicalized about it. Not necessarily terroristic, but radicalized nevertheless. If you want YouTube examples, just look up videos that are positive about veganism, especially the really gory ones, or videos about African perspectives of the evils of white men who aren’t Ubuntu enough, and no, I don’t mean the operating system, and then, like I said, there’s PETA—but most of the time, these people are just looked at as crazy because of how radical they approach the whole thing, because of the fact that they imply answers that show that they don’t really understand the problem, they still believe in some sort of fairy tale, they don’t realize that their answers would mean the destruction of our society—and the ones that DO realize it don’t care, and the ones that don’t care are usually really young and don’t really have a grasp of what a collapse would mean because they’re still in what I like to call their “Superman” years. I must admit to having that kind of philosophy in my 20s, but it wasn’t because I saw the bigger picture. I mean, thought *I* thought I did, I really just thought in my ignorant little head that a new government would be better than trying to make the current one better. Ah, the things we believe when we’re young.

Heck, even the crazy radical feminists, they see patterns, but they don’t seem to recognize what they really are. In my opinion, if you can see the bigger picture, you realize how utterly hopeless the human condition really is, and you realize how there’s really no way to tackle the situation as a whole without it utterly destroying what we currently have, without destroying one of those pillars, and it’s almost guaranteed that if this government collapses, it will be replaced involuntarily with something much, MUCH worse than we have now. We need to be thankful for what we have. We here in the United States are living in a paradise right now, and we don’t even know it. I’m going to support a message that encourages people to help us sustain our way of life while slowly accepting more enlightened social ideals. My hope is that if it happens at a slow pace, it won’t break under the extremes as easily, that the system will be able to handle more and more stress when it happens slowly.

It probably won’t last forever, but I can sure hope it will at least last for a few more generations. Our society is not ready to fundamentally change and our government cannot withstand a culture that is opposed to its basic principles. If we become that culture, we’re toast.
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This is a script I'm working on for a YouTube video. I keep procrastinating making it, so I thought I'd share it here:

I accept and support what we do as a society. It’s funny, I bet you think I’m really ignorant for saying that or that it’s some sort of derpy derp sort of thing, or that I’m hateful, or that I’m religious. I bet you think I’m some sort of blindly patriotic buffoon. Sure, there are a lot of things that could be made better in our culture, but in general I like our way of life. I like the quality of life we’re able to enjoy. I love our technology, our medical care, our advances, our life expectancy. I love huge grocery stores with insane variety. I love shopping malls. I love NewEgg.com I love cheesy commercials that advertise undefined products. I love movies and special effects. I love innovative music. I love international food. I love pop culture. I love underground culture. I love atheist culture. I love Christian culture. I LOVE living here in this country, and I feel VERY very fortunate to have been born in such a prosperous country, whether it has major problems or not. I’m very lucky, and so is everyone else who is ABLE to watch and create videos here on YouTube.

Now, everything I’ve said so far still doesn’t show anything deep in any way, it doesn’t show that I understand the dark side of our culture, so let me explain:

Our society, our culture, and our government are based on 3 concepts: Ownership, control, and manipulation. If we try to actually take down any of those concepts, those pillars, the other two will fall with it and we can kiss our society and everything we love about it goodbye.

Ownership is very obvious. Keepin’ up with the Jonse’s. Consumerism. We think we can own anything. We used to think we could own people, but we finally did away with that… or did we. Many people still treat their children as property. Marriage is basically people becoming property of each other. Either way, we’ve put restrictions on ownership, but we’ve never attempted to get rid of it altogether and we hopefully never will because if we did, we’d be done.

Control is pretty self-explanatory. We want to control what is around us. We think we have the right to control just about anything—and rightly so, we wouldn’t enjoy most of the things we enjoy if people didn’t think they had control. Over the years, we’ve learned that we need to put some minor restrictions on control.

Manipulation, it’s by far the most important. We manipulate the earth to get minerals and to gather plant materials, all to subtract from and add to and modify and change into the things we currently enjoy. Our ability to manipulate shows our intelligence through all the things we create. We also manipulate other people, it’s part of the whole reason why people have needless drama all the time.

But these three pillars are a necessary part of our culture. We can work around these pillars, knowing they’re there, we can reduce the negative effects those pillars have, but we can’t eliminate any of them. We’re stuck with them and we might as well face it and embrace it as much as we can.

Groups like Peta are horrible. They’re terrorists as far as I’m concerned. But the messages that they often say about how we look at animals is actually totally correct. Pets are slaves—yes, people love their pets, but I’m sure there were many slave owners who loved their slaves as well. Am I against pet ownership? No. Am I for human slave ownership? HELL NO! Now do I even have to mention factory farming? We do some crazy things—but this view we have of animals is simply part of our culture. We can reduce the negative effects of this by raising animals in more humane conditions, we can do a number of things, but for the most part, our society is still going to look at other animals the same way we do now. It’s kind-of a Christian thing, unfortunately. I simply accept the things that we do. The thing is, we do it to plants as well, we do it to everything—we shouldn’t feel like we’re singling out animals with this, and really, we shouldn’t feel bad about it at all because you wouldn’t be watching this video if we didn’t do this type of thing.

Then of course there’s the way we look at other cultures. We see other cultures as something to manipulate and control. The war on terror is a really good example of this. We might want to work on that a little bit, we might want to regulate our behavior just a little bit in that area. That’s an area we should significantly curb. We need to stop digging into other cultures. We get mad when people do it to us, why shouldn’t they get mad when we do it to them?

I don’t want this society to collapse. I don’t want a new government. I want to make what we have continue to work as society and culture becomes more enlightened and more open.

I think most people just want society to keep going, most people here are going to try to defend our way of life, but I don’t think they’re thinking about the real basics of what they’re actually defending, and that’s OK, at least they’re still defending it.

Christianity fully supports these three pillars, in fact, it’s part of why they’re so strong here. Most religions are at least tolerant of them. Islam isn’t one of them, which is why I’m so concerned about it. The goal in Islam seems to be for all those pillars to get taken down and replaced with values from the Koran. There is no more ownership, there is no more manipulation, there is no more freedom, and control is replaced with submission to an invisible man in the sky. To Islam, our way of life is looked at as the most disgusting, most vile thing out there, and the truth is, it DOES have some pretty awful things about it, but it’s OUR way of life and I’m going to defend it. It’s certainly better than cutting off people’s hands and stoning people for ridiculously trivial matters because of some bull**** dogma.

This is going to be harsh, but to me, if people want to get rid of those pillars, they need to move to another country that has a different set of pillars. If someone’s primary reason for wanting to come here is to fundamentally change our culture, they should never step on that plane in the first place. If you want to completely destroy our culture, get the **** out of this country!

Anyway… There are a LOT of people out there who see little bits and pieces of these things that we do, sometimes they even see the whole picture, and they become radicalized about it. Not necessarily terroristic, but radicalized nevertheless. If you want YouTube examples, just look up videos that are positive about veganism, especially the really gory ones, or videos about African perspectives of the evils of white men who aren’t Ubuntu enough, and no, I don’t mean the operating system, and then, like I said, there’s PETA—but most of the time, these people are just looked at as crazy because of how radical they approach the whole thing, because of the fact that they imply answers that show that they don’t really understand the problem, they still believe in some sort of fairy tale, they don’t realize that their answers would mean the destruction of our society—and the ones that DO realize it don’t care, and the ones that don’t care are usually really young and don’t really have a grasp of what a collapse would mean because they’re still in what I like to call their “Superman” years. I must admit to having that kind of philosophy in my 20s, but it wasn’t because I saw the bigger picture. I mean, thought *I* thought I did, I really just thought in my ignorant little head that a new government would be better than trying to make the current one better. Ah, the things we believe when we’re young.

Heck, even the crazy radical feminists, they see patterns, but they don’t seem to recognize what they really are. In my opinion, if you can see the bigger picture, you realize how utterly hopeless the human condition really is, and you realize how there’s really no way to tackle the situation as a whole without it utterly destroying what we currently have, without destroying one of those pillars, and it’s almost guaranteed that if this government collapses, it will be replaced involuntarily with something much, MUCH worse than we have now. We need to be thankful for what we have. We here in the United States are living in a paradise right now, and we don’t even know it. I’m going to support a message that encourages people to help us sustain our way of life while slowly accepting more enlightened social ideals. My hope is that if it happens at a slow pace, it won’t break under the extremes as easily, that the system will be able to handle more and more stress when it happens slowly.

It probably won’t last forever, but I can sure hope it will at least last for a few more generations. Our society is not ready to fundamentally change and our government cannot withstand a culture that is opposed to its basic principles. If we become that culture, we’re toast.
I think that perhaps your concept of our societal basis is a little narrow. Property and control are certainly fundamental to it, but so is a minimal respect for others.

By that I mean a very minimal respect, the kind that will cause a passerby to throw a rope to a drowning child. Believe it or not, that's not a universal societal trait. A recent video form China that I saw illustrated that. Passers by on a busy sidewalk utterly ignoring a small child being repeatedly run over by slow moving traffic. The drivers too, saw the toddler, but were apparently more disturbed by angry drivers behind them. So they drove over the kid, just really slowly.

(In fairness, another video form China showed neighbors heroically rescuing a child. China is multicultural, some of the subcultures appear to have more egalitarian sentiments than others.)

We also have, though it is fading, a cultural imperative to have individual worth to others, both for profit, and in other ways.

Without both of the aforementioned traits, we could never have an effective volunteer military for example.

I think that are a few other fundamentals of our culture as well, things that we assign at least equal value to as any of our more material concerns. This becomes dramatically apparent when the doctor comes into the waiting room and tells the parents, "your child is very sick." You can see someone then reassess their entire value system in about 5 seconds.
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I think that perhaps your concept of our societal basis is a little narrow. Property and control are certainly fundamental to it, but so is a minimal respect for others.

By that I mean a very minimal respect, the kind that will cause a passerby to throw a rope to a drowning child. Believe it or not, that's not a universal societal trait. A recent video form China that I saw illustrated that. passers by on a busy sidewalk utterly ignoring a small child being repeatedly run over by slow moving traffic. The drivers too, saw the toddler, but were apparently more disturbed by angry drivers behind them. So the drove over the kid, just really slowly.
Yeah, I remember seeing that video. It was quite disturbing. This may sound unrelated, but it isn't really: It's weird to watch how Russians handle car accidents, or how they react when they see someone's car suddenly burst into flames. Liability is what I think people end up being worried about, and I unfortunately think the same thing in the situation in China. If you didn't "really" see it, you can't be held responsible. The same type of mentality exists here as well, it happens all the time, though maybe not as blatant or as extreme.
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We also have, though it is fading, a cultural imperative to have individual worth to others, both for profit, and in other ways.
Of course. I guess maybe I should include that in the script. We especially value and give worth to others who we THINK have similar values to our own.
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Doesn't that fit into people just wanting to sustain the country, to fight to keep the things we have and to be able to have more of those kinds of things in the future?
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I think that are a few other fundamentals of our culture as well, things that we assign at least equal value to as any of our more material concerns. this becomes dramatically apparent when the doctor comes into the waiting room and tells the parents, "your child is very sick." You can see someone then reassess their entire value system in about 5 seconds.
Good point.
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I was actually really hoping to see what some of the reaction from the left was to the script.
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I'm glad I never made the video for that script--though some of the positive things at the beginning were fine.

I may believe that the things I mentioned are indeed SOME of the pillars that our culture is based on, but there are many other very purely positive things as well, and without those things... well... we would be a pretty sh***y culture.
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