Gay fan asks NFL team to end Kiss Cam 'joke' - Page 2

BodiSatva · #11 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Idealogically Promiscuous

I'm gay and I don't give a **** if gays are offended. Being gay doesn't give you any entitlement to being a thin skinned little pansy.

Agreed. And since it is supposed to be silly it should not be a big deal. I am white and found Eddie Murphey's "White Like Us" SNL routine back in the day one of the funniest things ON THE PLANET. He made it seem whites were the biggest racists ever and that we just give money to white people, party on the bus when blacks aren't around, etc. It was totally racist. It was perfectly funny. Whites didn't bitch about racism from what I remember. We laughed our asses off.

rivrrat · #12 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BodiSatva

Most people are not gay. Most people are heterosexual. If they went to a gay and lesbian event and showed two gay guys kiss and then two gay women kiss and then zoomed over to a gay man and gay women next to each other and made a joke about them kissing , as if them kissing was wrong, then that would be offensive.

Quite frankly, I don't give a **** if people choose to be offended.

But, the issue is that the two people don't wish to kiss, not that the kissing is 'wrong'.

BodiSatva · #13 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

Quite frankly, I don't give a **** if people choose to be offended.

But, the issue is that the two people don't wish to kiss, not that the kissing is 'wrong'.

Neither do I and Nope. It is not that they don't wish to kiss. It is the assumption that they don't wish to kiss because they are heterosexuals. For all they know the two guys on the team are gay lovers. If they started kissing the joke wouldn't be funny. What would be funny is them turning the joke around on the camera guys.

rivrrat · #14 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BodiSatva

Neither do I and Nope. It is not that they don't wish to kiss. It is the assumption that they don't wish to kiss because they are heterosexuals. For all they know the two guys on the team are gay lovers. If they started kissing the joke wouldn't be funny. What would be funny is them turning the joke around on the camera guys.

If they started kissing, it WOULD be funny. The presumption is that they don't WANT to kiss, regardless of their sexual orientation. Just as it would be funny if they turned the cam on ANY two people of ANY sex and those two people didn't WANT to kiss. If they turned it on a man and woman and those two obviously didn't want to kiss (or pretended they didn't), it would be just as funny.

BodiSatva · #15 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

If they started kissing, it WOULD be funny. The presumption is that they don't WANT to kiss, regardless of their sexual orientation. Just as it would be funny if they turned the cam on ANY two people of ANY sex and those two people didn't WANT to kiss. If they turned it on a man and woman and those two obviously didn't want to kiss (or pretended they didn't), it would be just as funny.

I just don't think that you are getting it, or playing to try and be clever... it would be funny because they don't want to kiss because they are two heterosexual men. Sometimes I think that you are willfully obtuse and this is one of those times.

cnredd · #16 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

In my opinion it has more to do with two people not WANTING to kiss. If they put the cam on me and a male friend of mine that I did not have a romantic relationship with, us kissing would be quite amusing. It would be a joke. And something we would laugh about afterwards. It wouldn't be offensive. Why would it be? And if the two men on the opposing team DID kiss on the kisscam, there would likely be cheering. I fail to see how any of this is negative.

When I started the thread, I was reminded of two Philadelphia Flyers on the Kiss Cam...Jeremy Roenick leaned over and kissed Mark Recchi...and yes, it was hysterical and everyone cheered...

Unfortunately, YouTube doesn't have it...

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The best ‘kiss’ between NHL players was when Philadelphia’s Jeremy Roenick pretended to make out with March Recchi in Toronto when the Air Canada Center’s Kiss Cam filmed them. Unfortunately, video of the incident is difficult to find. Says Roenick: ”How many guys in the National Hockey League would actually do that? You guys thought I wouldn’t do that. Recchs is a good friend of mine. I like to have fun. I’m stable in my sexuality.”

Idealogically Promiscuous · #17 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:26 PM

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The best ‘kiss’ between NHL players was when Philadelphia’s Jeremy Roenick pretended to make out with March Recchi in Toronto when the Air Canada Center’s Kiss Cam filmed them. Unfortunately, video of the incident is difficult to find. Says Roenick: ”How many guys in the National Hockey League would actually do that? You guys thought I wouldn’t do that. Recchs is a good friend of mine. I like to have fun. I’m stable in my sexuality.”

Good quote. I think if more homos were stable in their sexuality, you wouldn't have some limp wristed busy body squealing about the kiss cam joke.

cnredd · #18 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Idealogically Promiscuous

Good quote. I think if more homos were stable in their sexuality, you wouldn't have some limp wristed busy body squealing about the kiss cam joke.

I think the problem is that certain people LOOK for offense when none was given...

It's right up there with the NAACP having an issue with the astrological term "black holes"...

BodiSatva · #19 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

I think the problem is that certain people LOOK for offense when none was given...

It's right up there with the NAACP having an issue with the astrological term "black holes"...

My brother was bugged with me for talking "insensitively" in public about something, can't remember. I said that I am not being offensive. He complaned that somebody might get offended though and I said that that only meant that they were defensive and that meant that the issue was theirs. If my intent is not to be offensive then I am not being offensive.

cnredd · #20 (**permalink**) 03-21-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BodiSatva

My brother was bugged with me for talking "insensitively" in public about something, can't remember. I said that I am not being offensive. He complaned that somebody might get offended though and I said that that only meant that they were defensive and that meant that the issue was theirs. If my intent is not to be offensive then I am not being offensive.

SNL ran a funny bit WAAAAY back (when they were funny)...

If they tried this skit today, they'd be attacked relentlessly because people just don't get it anymore...

Video here...

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Racist Word Association Interview

Written by: Paul Mooney

Interviewer.....Chevy Chase
Mr. Wilson.....Richard Pryor

Interviewer: Alright, Mr. Wilson, you've done just fine on the Rorshact.. your papers are in good order.. your file's fine.. no difficulties with your motor skills.. And I think you're probably ready for this job. We've got one more psychological test we always do here. It's just a Word Association. I'll throw you out a few words - anything that comes to your mind, just throw back at me, okay? It's kind of an arbitrary thing. Like, if I say "dog", you'd say..?

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Tree". [ nods head, prepares the test papers ] "Dog".

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Fast".

Mr. Wilson: "Slow".

Interviewer: "Rain".

Mr. Wilson: "Snow".

Interviewer: "White".

Mr. Wilson: "Black".

Interviewer: "Bean".

Mr. Wilson: "Pod".

Interviewer: [ casually ] "Negro".

Mr. Wilson: "Whitey".

Interviewer: "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: [ silent, sure he didn't hear what he thinks he heard ] What'd you say?

Interviewer: [ repeating ] "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: "Ofay".

Interviewer: "Colored".

Mr. Wilson: "Redneck".

Interviewer: "Junglebunny".

Mr. Wilson: [ starting to get angry ] "Peckerwood!"

Interviewer: "Burrhead".

Mr. Wilson: [ defensive ] "Cracker!"

Interviewer: [ aggressive ] "Spearchucker".

Mr. Wilson: "White trash!"

Interviewer: "Jungle Bunny!"

Mr. Wilson: [ upset ] "Honky!"

Interviewer: "Spade!

Mr. Wilson: [ really upset ] "Honky Honky!"

Interviewer: [ relentless ] "Nigger!"

Mr. Wilson: [ immediate ] "Dead honky!" [ face starts to flinch ]

Interviewer: [ quickly wraps the interview up ] Okay, Mr. Wilson, I think you're qualified for this job. How about a starting salary of $5,000?

Mr. Wilson: Your momma!

Interviewer: [ fumbling ] Uh.. $7,500 a year?

Mr. Wilson: Your grandmomma!

Interviewer: [ desperate ] $15,000, Mr. Wilson. You'll be the highest paid janitor in America. Just, don't.. don't hurt me, please..

Mr. Wilson: Okay.

Interviewer: [ relieved ] Okay.

Mr. Wilson: You want me to start now?

Interviewer: Oh, no, no.. that's alright. I'll clean all this up. Take a couple of weeks off, you look tired.

[ fade ]

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