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Old 02-06-2013, 04:38 AM
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I'm curious. After all my years in the workplace, I'm not sure I've ever had a coworker who got their job through a public job training program, or was even made to be qualified for one that way.

I keep reading about schemes to fund these programs, but if I had to testify, I couldn't cite any benefit of them through direct experience.

What about the rest of you?
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Public job training program? No. On the job training and/or company paid training? Yup. Lots.
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Not sure if it was part of the 'job training program', but my BIL, who worked for the State of California, Dept. of Forestry, was injured on the job, putting him on disability.

The State offered him a selection of 're-training' programs, one which was gun-smithing. The State paid for his training, and he now does gun smithing on his own. Not highly profitable, but it pays his bills, and the State doesn't have to pay for continued disability.
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The only people I know that got job training, (4) and then a job through that that ended up in an entry level low paying job. Most eventually got better jobs later doing other things.
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The only people I know that got job training, (4) and then a job through that that ended up in an entry level low paying job. Most eventually got better jobs later doing other things.
Sometimes it can be a spring board to better things, and IMO, that is what it's all about.
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Sometimes it can be a spring board to better things, and IMO, that is what it's all about.
It could be looked at as a spring board, but I see it more as a diving board into an empty pool.
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It could be looked at as a spring board, but I see it more as a diving board into an empty pool.
You'd prefer that people who need employment wander aimlessly, or spend some time at least learning to do something that contributes to society?
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You'd prefer that people who need employment wander aimlessly, or spend some time at least learning to do something that contributes to society?
When you're 40 years old and just lost a job that pays 30 or 40 bucks an hour, a job training program that gives you six months training, at best, in how to use a computer doesn't help much.

My niece works in finance and was laid off her job after twelve years. She was offered a job training program totally unrelated to what she did and if she would have taken it would at best give her a minimum wage job. She took unemployment instead and found another job after just ten weeks paying almost what she was making and in her field.

When people have ten, twenty, or thirty years invested in a career, job training not related to that career does not help at all.
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When you're 40 years old and just lost a job that pays 30 or 40 bucks an hour, a job training program that gives you six months training, at best, in how to use a computer doesn't help much.

My niece works in finance and was laid off her job after twelve years. She was offered a job training program totally unrelated to what she did and if she would have taken it would at best give her a minimum wage job. She took unemployment instead and found another job after just ten weeks paying almost what she was making and in her field.

When people have ten, twenty, or thirty years invested in a career, job training not related to that career does not help at all.
For some people, unemployment is the way to go, as long as they actively seek employment.

But with the number of jobs that have gone *poof*, don't even exist anymore, trying to stick with one thing and one thing only will be an exercise in futility.

If my job were to disappear tomorrow, chances are I'd be looking for something in another field. Too many people I know with degrees in one field, and find employment in another.

I'm a frustrated architect, but I crunch numbers for a living......
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In my experience, most programs of this sort are only going to get you jobs that you could get without the training program.
I usually go the opposite route: start with no training or experience and then get any available training or certification related to the field. Employers appreciate that, and give raises for it.
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