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A majority of Democrats look at socialism positively...while they gnash their teeth in radical defense at the mere mention of Obama and socialism...

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Exemplifying a major partisan divide in modern politics, Democrats react significantly more positively to the term "federal government" than they do to the term "capitalism," while the opposite is true for Republicans. But both Democrats and Republicans are highly positive about the terms "small business," "free enterprise," and "entrepreneurs."

These findings are based on a Nov. 18-19 update of a January 2010 Gallup poll question asking respondents if they had a positive or negative image of each of seven economically related terms.

Republicans and Republican-leaning independents and Democrats and Democratic leaners also differ in how they react to the terms "big business" and "socialism." Republicans are more positive about the former; Democrats are more positive about the latter.

The differences between Democrats and Republicans in how they view these terms provide an important window into today's political realities. Democrats have a more positive image of the federal government than they do of capitalism, by a 20-percentage-point margin, while Republicans are more positive about capitalism than the federal government, by a 45-point margin. This difference is not surprising -- particularly given that a Democrat currently occupies the White House -- but underscores the divergence in the ways in which Republicans and Democrats look at the appropriate role of the government in relationship to business.

Additionally, Democrats have roughly similar reactions to capitalism (55% positive) and socialism (53%), while Republicans are much more positive about the former than the latter, by 72% to 23%, respectively.
.So-called "moderate" Democrats know how anti-American socialism is, so they WANT it but are afraid to ADMIT it when they're name's attached...

At least the radical fringe of the Left are honest about their love for socialism...They don't mind being public about their anti-Americanism...

This also explains why Dems back Occupy but then shield attacks on them by saying "It's only the radical minority that ruins the movement of the majority."...Saying what they REALLY feel ("Che Guevara and Hugo Chavez are my heroes!") isn't politically digested...YET...(but they still hope for the day)...
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I'm waiting for the day you have a completely capitalist, gpvernmentless, free market driven nation with no regulation and no oversight to enjoy.
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I'm waiting for the day you have a completely capitalist, gpvernmentless, free market driven nation with no regulation and no oversight to enjoy.
That would be the anarchism welcomed by the Occupy crowd.
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A majority of Democrats look at socialism positively...while they gnash their teeth in radical defense at the mere mention of Obama and socialism...

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.So-called "moderate" Democrats know how anti-American socialism is, so they WANT it but are afraid to ADMIT it when they're name's attached...

At least the radical fringe of the Left are honest about their love for socialism...They don't mind being public about their anti-Americanism...

This also explains why Dems back Occupy but then shield attacks on them by saying "It's only the radical minority that ruins the movement of the majority."...Saying what they REALLY feel ("Che Guevara and Hugo Chavez are my heroes!") isn't politically digested...YET...(but they still hope for the day)...
Oh, I love science You sure spin a tale. Is this an attempt to say republicans are better than democrats???? I mean are you trying to sell yourself on your choice?
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Oh, I love science You sure spin a tale. Is this an attempt to say republicans are better than democrats???? I mean are you trying to sell yourself on your choice?
I kind of agree with the complaint.....

It looks like a poll on perception.....


No way those could be ginned up......
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I kind of agree with the complaint.....

It looks like a poll on perception.....


No way those could be ginned up......
Really? Nobody asked me. cnredd claims that people like me get upset when the right tries to peg Obama as a socialist. Ya know why? Because Obama is not a socialist. Doesn't that make sense? He is called a Muslim too. He is called a Kenyan as well by some on the right. Maybe cnredd can find a poll that shows he must be Kenyan because the left have a positive view of Kenya? Or is he a Muslim because the right if asked would no doubt show real low numbers for Muslim support? The entire idea is ignorant
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Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.
Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.
Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives.
My guess is the image people have today for socialism is along the lines of certain aspects of Europe (such as it's healthcare system) and is not the image people had 30 years ago of the Soviets or Cuba.
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And how accurate is Gallup??

How were their numbers on the election?

Do we believe them yet again?

Go ahead, righties...further your misunderstanding about the American people and the American electorate! Believe Gallup again!
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A majority of Democrats look at socialism positively...while they gnash their teeth in radical defense at the mere mention of Obama and socialism...

Democrats, Republicans Diverge on Capitalism, Federal Gov't



.So-called "moderate" Democrats know how anti-American socialism is, so they WANT it but are afraid to ADMIT it when they're name's attached...

At least the radical fringe of the Left are honest about their love for socialism...They don't mind being public about their anti-Americanism...

This also explains why Dems back Occupy but then shield attacks on them by saying "It's only the radical minority that ruins the movement of the majority."...Saying what they REALLY feel ("Che Guevara and Hugo Chavez are my heroes!") isn't politically digested...YET...(but they still hope for the day)...
Well the terms "federal government" and "capitalism" are not equal. One is a name for our government, the other an economic term.
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