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Old 11-02-2012, 12:09 AM
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I'm sure if they get right with the union it will be ok for them to make a buck there. If it is a union area that means a lot of households depend on keeping those wages afloat and not dragging them down. One reason is the season is shorter for that type of work than in Alabama. You have to make enough to see you through the winter.
They're volunteers you f*cking idiot. There to help in an emergency for FREE! NO CHARGE! There to get the f*cking power back to the people that arte without. And you tout this union bullsh*t.

Get right with the union? How about the union get right with the customer and get the f*cking power back on?
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Reason number 372 why I would never work for a union: money trumps common sense
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:16 AM
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On the other side a professional group who have already been tried and true in their own locale should not be put out of a job by possible fly-by-nighters who may take advantage of circumstances price gouging and offering shoddy workmanship. A lot of that went on in Louisianna and after Andrew.
You've just hit an all time low.

POSSIBLE fly-by-nighters. When people are dealing with devastation, lack of power, flooding and any number of other major issues, and you feel the POSSIBILITY that some shenk crews may turn up should prevent the restoration of power?

Let me tell you something about emergency utility work. Shenk crews will tell out virtually immediately.... and the other non-union crews will tell them out. Personal experience with the rebuild after Hurrican Andrew proved that.

The fact that you are so pro-union is well known, but you are denying people the help they so desperately need, based on whether or not the crews belong to a ****ing union? Some of the non-union crews are better than the union crews, as they encouraged to grow and learn more, where the union actively discourages it as 'it's not your job'.

How absoultely disgusting.
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I'm sure if they get right with the union it will be ok for them to make a buck there. If it is a union area that means a lot of households depend on keeping those wages afloat and not dragging them down. One reason is the season is shorter for that type of work than in Alabama. You have to make enough to see you through the winter.
I'm sure the people there would rather ****ing have power than give a flying **** how much the person restoring their power is getting paid
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I remember the time some idiots were trying to unionize our Armed Forces.



I can already see the pro-union armchair warriors salivating at the thought.

Okay. Back to the topic of workers who must serve their master first.
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Without the workers rights movement, we'd all be working in sweatshops.
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Without the workers rights movement, we'd all be working in sweatshops.
Oh please.

The vast majority of people in this country don't work with unions, don't want to work with unions, and don't have anything to do with unions. And yet, we aren't working in sweatshops.

I'd 10x rather have a non-union crew than a union one. The non-union crews think for themselves and do for themselves. I find that preferable to slaves who pay to be slaves.
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Some time ago, it was to be believed. Nowadays, the royalty for the master comes first, for the privilege of being in his club.
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Without the workers rights movement, we'd all be working in sweatshops.
What does that have to do modern unions or the situation in the OP?? I don't know of anyone who isn't grateful for what the unions once did, but TODAY they are a problem for this country. Thier false inflation of labor costs are pushing jobs overseas (where they still have sweatshops). The very people who once fought to stop the sweatshops are now creating and perpetuating an environment that is contributing to them being established in other countries.
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Some time ago, it was to be believed. Nowadays, the royalty for the master comes first, for the privilege of being in his club.
You mean Skull and Bones? Bush's club. President Obama isn't a master, but it is telling that you call him that.

Kind of reverse racism. What the heck is the black man doing being a "master"?

Working people need economic and legal protection from exploiting employers.
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