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Old 09-24-2012, 05:43 AM
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I have finally figured out why Libertarians and the Libertarian Party will never climb into the ranks of the major political parties in the United States.
They will always remain a minority party despite their ability to attract democrats and republicans and may even hold a view supported by a majority of Americans and it's of their own doing.
First, despite their view likely supported by a majority, their superiority complex turns off a lot of folks.
It's the attitude that they are smarter, better informed and politically superior to the average voter that some folks want nothing to do with.
But their biggest problem is their unwillingness to build their party from the ground up.
Instead of building their party by electing city council members, mayors, state house and senate members, governors, U.S. house and senate members they go straight to the top trying to win the presidency seemingly in an attempt to build their party from the top down.
Which is ironic considering their objection to the top down ruling of our federal government over the states and the people.
Until Libertarians are willing to build their party through electing legislators at every level of government until they challenge for a majority stake at each level they will continue to be nothing more than minor league political hacks with a superiority complex.
Even their current presidential candidate was elected governor as a republican and only became a libertarian because he failed to win the republican primary.
I believe Libertarians could eventually challenge the status quo but only if they drop the attitude and begin the process of building their party through elections starting at the local level and advancing up the political ladder with a history of results.
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It's what gives me hope for the Tea Party being able to actaully make a real change. They're actually doing what LP has failed to do - getting local offices filled. The LP could still make the shift, but they have so committed to the national stage that getting local offices has become almost a lost cause for them.
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It's what gives me hope for the Tea Party being able to actaully make a real change. They're actually doing what LP has failed to do - getting local offices filled. The LP could still make the shift, but they have so committed to the national stage that getting local offices has become almost a lost cause for them.
The Economic Terrorist Organization ( Tea Party) is going nowhere . They thought they could make change and duped a bunch of people to put them in Washington during a mid term when voter turn out is low. Since going there they have accomplished a downgrade in the credit rating, and push a social agenda going against their campaign of Jobs, jobs, Jobs,. The Queen of the Party is a Joke and will never see elected office again, and many of the current Tea Party extremists are fighting losing battles in re-election bids. They are a phase, the Republican Party will take back what they had and send the Tea Party back home where they belong.
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The Economic Terrorist Organization ( Tea Party) is going nowhere . They thought they could make change and duped a bunch of people to put them in Washington during a mid term when voter turn out is low. Since going there they have accomplished a downgrade in the credit rating, and push a social agenda going against their campaign of Jobs, jobs, Jobs,. The Queen of the Party is a Joke and will never see elected office again, and many of the current Tea Party extremists are fighting losing battles in re-election bids. They are a phase, the Republican Party will take back what they had and send the Tea Party back home where they belong.


Let's see now. I draw a comparison between the process that the LP is following and the process that the TP is using and the only thing you can add (a term which is highly suspect in it's accuracy) is a stupid rant against the TP. Do you have anything positive and intelligent to add to the discussion??
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Let's see now. I draw a comparison between the process that the LP is following and the process that the TP is using and the only thing you can add (a term which is highly suspect in it's accuracy) is a stupid rant against the TP. Do you have anything positive and intelligent to add to the discussion??
Do you?
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The lobbyists would have little screw worms if a Libertarian were elected President. Like they had them when Obama was elected. Any real change upsots the old graft apple cart.
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I've long thought that the LP had an image problem. Most people only think of them as the "pro-drug" party. They've struggled to compile and communicate a clear message of who they are and what they believe. They've also humstrung themselves with a string of candidates that have had near zero name recognition. Thier biggest victories seem to come from running former Dems./Reps. who lost in the primaries and needed a party to back them (the closest they get to any decent name recognition). The LP needs to get focused on establishing a base, communicating a clear message and ending the perception of it being simply a bunch of guys who want to get high and not pay taxes.

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The lobbyists would have little screw worms if a Libertarian were elected President. Like they had them when Obama was elected. Any real change upsots the old graft apple cart.
Special interest lobbyists didn't rue the election of Obama the privately funded candidate, they celebrated by funding the most expensive inaguration parties in history. For the favored special interests like Soilyndra, the UAW and GE the ROI funded by taxes and debt has been phenomenal.

The hypocracy of supporting Obama financed by big money special interest contributions as a champion in the fight against big money special interests is astounding.
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Special interest lobbyists didn't rue the election of Obama the privately funded candidate, they celebrated by funding the most expensive inaguration parties in history. For the favored special interests like Soilyndra, the UAW and GE the ROI funded by taxes and debt has been phenomenal.

The hypocracy of supporting Obama financed by big money special interest contributions as a champion in the fight against big money special interests is astounding.
OK maybe I misspoke. War money gets the sh*ts every time Obama and Hillary use diplomacy.
The same thing would happen (imho) with a Libertarian administration.
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