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0) I just have to ask. For anybody still "fighting" this issue of a "cross-dressing" day.
Can you comprehend how such an event can be FUN in the name of SCHOOL-SPIRIT and have absolutely nothing to do with the "promotion of transgenderism"?
Seriously.

1) The article's described activities had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with promoting transgenderism. Not in accepting, tolerating, or being transgender.

2) By the mentality demonstrated here by some, we should all indict Halloween for encouraging our kids to accept witchcraft, transgenderism, vampirism, and dressing up like an ex-president...


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Not in all the schools I went to.
Quite frankly, I pity you on that.
Everything must be an "agenda" to you, huh...

These things have been going on FOR DECADES.
(um. I didn't just out my age...)
During all that time, it had NOTHING to do with promoting transgenderism.

Yours is the mentality that leads people to suspect one of the teletubbies is gay...

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IF the left wasn't trying to trying to indoctrinate our children there probably wouldn't be a problem with this.
Hmmm.. how strange.. I don't ever remember anyone doing such to me... and I am gay.. how bizarre.

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Twenty,thirty years ago no one would have gave it a second thought.However today with all the nonsense that goes on in Sanfransicko and other homo/transexual heavily infested cities,trying to put gay childrens fairy tales in our schools,make gay PBS children specials and some other form of homo/transexual indoctrination going on, normal people are right to be paranoid when there is cross dressing day at elementary schools.
So reading a book will make me change into something??? wow.. how bizarre...

don't tell all those women that dressed up as peter pan.. but they might be gay......
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Hmmm.. how strange.. I don't ever remember anyone doing such to me... and I am gay.. how bizarre.

So reading a book will make me change into something??? wow.. how bizarre...

don't tell all those women that dressed up as peter pan.. but they might be gay......
We used to have an "Ugly Woman Pageant" every year as part of our fall carnival to raise money for the school. Men dressed up as women and strutted their stuff and displayed their "talents."

A lot of the men who served on the PTA as well as teachers and other school employees participated.

My uncle won one year. I think being solid muscle on a 6' 3" frame coupled with his mustache were the keys to his victory. Or it could have been the fact that he was a popular pastor in the community. I wonder if his daughters thought he was their mommy after that.

We did the guys dressed as cheerleaders thing too.

And, FYI, I graduated from high school over 30 years ago.

This type of thing is not new and it has nothing to do with gender identity. It was good clean fun then and it still would be if the alarmist wackos would shut up.



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It's funny how adults(!), who know damn well that elementary schoolchildren are still confused about identity and learn as they grow would confuse them even further...

Who says elementary school children are confused about identity?

I think that is absolute hogwash.
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The first thing you need to do is show a demonstrable pattern of indoctrination at our schools. If you can't do that...the rest of your tripe is just a load of garbage taking up bandwidth.

Homosexual childrens books
CHILDREN'S BOOKS - New York Times

AFA Journal - Jan. 2001 - Judge allows pro-homosexual children's books

Children's book "King and King"

Gay children's PBS special
Baptist Press - Groundbreaking: Homosexuality finding its way into cartoons - News with a Christian Perspective

Gay indoctrination in schools.
Ground Spark
It's Elementary is the first film of its kind to address anti-gay prejudice by providing adults with practical lessons on how to talk with kids about gay people. Hailed as "a model of intelligent directing," It's Elementary shows that children are eager and able to wrestle with stereotypes and absorb new facts about what it means to be gay or lesbian.

Since it aired on more than 100 public television stations in 1999, It's Elementary has fueled a growing movement of educators and parents -- gay and straight alike -- who are committed to preventing pervasive homophobia and anti-gay violence. The film shows what happens when kids in kindergarten through eighth grade discuss lesbian- and gay-related topics in age-appropriate ways. Shot in six public and private schools, It's Elementary models excellent teaching about family diversity, name-calling, stereotypes, community building and more.

It's Elementary has won numerous awards, has been acquired by nearly 3,000 educational institutions, and has received widespread acclaim from educators, policymakers, parents and religious leaders. Not surprisingly, It's Elementary has also been relentlessly condemned by the conservative right.

Teachers insist: Being 'gay' good

Parents urged to boycott homosexual indoctrination
What if homosexual rights advocates staged a huge promotional event and no one came to see it? That's exactly what a coalition of organizations is proposing for April 25, this year's "Day of Silence," which is sponsored in public schools across the nation.

"It's outrageous that our neighborhood schools would allow homosexual activism to intrude into the classroom," said Buddy Smith of the American Family Association, one of a long list of organizations asking parents to keep their students home from school on that day.

"'Day of Silence' is about coercing students to repudiate traditional morality. It's time for Christian parents to draw the line – if your children will be exposed to this DOS propaganda in their school, then keep them home for the day," he said.

Example of homosexual indoctrination in our schools.
Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools


Teacher showing homosexual film in school.
FOXNews.com - Chicago Board of Ed Sued for Teacher Allegedly Showing 'Brokeback Mountain' in Class - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/nyregion/14sex.html


schools allowing mentally ill children to go to school as a gender they are not.
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Homosexual childrens books
CHILDREN'S BOOKS - New York Times

AFA Journal - Jan. 2001 - Judge allows pro-homosexual children's books

Children's book "King and King"

Gay children's PBS special
Baptist Press - Groundbreaking: Homosexuality finding its way into cartoons - News with a Christian Perspective

Gay indoctrination videos.
Ground Spark
It's Elementary is the first film of its kind to address anti-gay prejudice by providing adults with practical lessons on how to talk with kids about gay people. Hailed as "a model of intelligent directing," It's Elementary shows that children are eager and able to wrestle with stereotypes and absorb new facts about what it means to be gay or lesbian.

Since it aired on more than 100 public television stations in 1999, It's Elementary has fueled a growing movement of educators and parents -- gay and straight alike -- who are committed to preventing pervasive homophobia and anti-gay violence. The film shows what happens when kids in kindergarten through eighth grade discuss lesbian- and gay-related topics in age-appropriate ways. Shot in six public and private schools, It's Elementary models excellent teaching about family diversity, name-calling, stereotypes, community building and more.

It's Elementary has won numerous awards, has been acquired by nearly 3,000 educational institutions, and has received widespread acclaim from educators, policymakers, parents and religious leaders. Not surprisingly, It's Elementary has also been relentlessly condemned by the conservative right.

Parents urged to boycott homosexual indoctrination
What if homosexual rights advocates staged a huge promotional event and no one came to see it? That's exactly what a coalition of organizations is proposing for April 25, this year's "Day of Silence," which is sponsored in public schools across the nation.

"It's outrageous that our neighborhood schools would allow homosexual activism to intrude into the classroom," said Buddy Smith of the American Family Association, one of a long list of organizations asking parents to keep their students home from school on that day.

"'Day of Silence' is about coercing students to repudiate traditional morality. It's time for Christian parents to draw the line – if your children will be exposed to this DOS propaganda in their school, then keep them home for the day," he said.

Example of homosexual indoctrination in our schools.
Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools


Teacher showing homosexual film in school.
FOXNews.com - Chicago Board of Ed Sued for Teacher Allegedly Showing 'Brokeback Mountain' in Class - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

schools allowing mentally ill children to go to school as a gender they are not.
village voice > news > See Tom Be Jane by Julia Reischel

Supporting Boys or Girls When the Line Isn’t Clear - New York Times
So you read all those and saw them, do you feel gay now?
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So you read all those and saw them, do you feel gay now?
I am curious if he thinks that Bugs Bunny promoted transgenderism too....

It is sad that people today still think someones sexuality can be changed...

Many groups do "indoctrinate"... religions, cults, supremist groups... sexuality just is
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Homosexual childrens books
Blah, blah, blah...

Those books no more "promote" homosexuality or "contribute" to a person being homosexual than Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, Shrek, the Little Mermaid, ... contribute or promote heterosexuality.

Those books acknowledge the existence of gays, without the rabid condemnation that people like you insist on.

Refusing to hide homosexuality in a closet in a way that heterosexuality would never dream on being restricted is NOT "indoctrination".

The majority of the crap you quote has absolutely nothing to do with real "indoctrination".

As for others, schools should teach tolerance. "Acceptance" is a moral issue that belongs in the home.

People shouldn't try to exaggerate the former into the latter.

It's that type of thinking that would lead people down a slippery slope of pretending that saying "Merry Christmas" is somehow endorsing Christianity, and thus should be prevented...
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I am curious if he thinks that Bugs Bunny promoted transgenderism too....

It is sad that people today still think someones sexuality can be changed...

Many groups do "indoctrinate"... religions, cults, supremist groups... sexuality just is
When do you think I should break the news to him that there was no santa... ??
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The fear of recruitment is baseless because it is based on a false premise - that gay people recruit straight people to become gay. We don't. We don't recruit because we know from our own experience that sexual orientation is inborn, and can't be changed. Indeed, the attempts by psychologists, counselors and religious therapy and support groups to change sexual orientation have all uniformly met with failure - the studies that have been done of these attempts at "therapeutic" intervention have never been shown to have any statistically significant results in the manner intended, and most have been shown to have emotionally damaging consequences. So the notion that someone can be changed from straight to gay is just as unlikely. Yet there remains that deep, dark fear that somehow, someone might get "recruited." And that baseless fear is often used by bigots to scare people into opposing gay rights in general, as well as gay marriage.

The core cause of this fear is the result of the fact that many homophobes, including most virulent, violent homophobes are themselves repressed sexually, often with same sex attractions. One of the recent studies done at the University of Georgia among convicted killers of gay men has shown that the overwhelmingly large percentage of them (more than 70%) exhibit sexual arousal when shown scenes of gay sex. The core fear, then, for the homophobe is that he himself might be gay, and might be forced to face that fact. The homophobia can be as internalized as it is externalized - bash the queer and you don't have to worry about being aroused by him.
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