I didn't mean as in free, was getting a mental picture of them singing in the fields like the chain gangs did on the roads.

Not *everyone* on welfare is just sitting on their ass. Some cannot work due to physical issues. It's the ones that can work, and choose not to that I have problems with.

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I agree but none of the lame excuses should be allowed. Too fat to work? Umm, you won't be for long. Knee hurts? Yeah they do that the majority of us have aches and pains to work through.

But what will probably happen is farmers cut the crop size which pushes up the price which will make it worth paying more to get the crops next year. Consumers pay but that's the way it goes.

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Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. ~ Ronald Reagan

I wouldn't support putting someone who is physically unable to work, but being fat and out of shape would NOT fit that category. There's all kinds of work that could be done by people on welfare. We shouldn't have filthy, run down neighborhoods, covered with graffiti in communites with a high % of welfare recipients. In those kind of places, we should have small armies of welfare recipients cleaning things up and making their neighborhood more attractive to potential employers.

While we're at it, lets start offering bounties on gang members/drug dealers. Give the local PD information that leads to the conviction of a drug dealer, get a check. Maybe even combine the two ideas and start paying the people who can't work to watch and report.

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Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

The youngsters able to work, but who have children would be the ones I would go after. Pay for their day care. Would be cheaper in the long run and teach Dick, Sally and Jane where their mom or dad's money comes from.

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Agreed.

Oh, hell no. Could you imagine having people out there watching your every move? I've had cause to go into low income neighborhoods, and I sure don't want someone thinking 'Hmmm suspicious person!!' and having to deal with LEO and explain my prescence.

Leave it at known criminals and the rewards offered for them. Your plan could start problems I wouldn't even want to consider.

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"Try and fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen".

In my neighborhood, that's me and my wife. About 7 or 8 blocks away they just ignore suspicious people and that's why a homeless guy was living in an empty house for 6 months until a realtor showed the place and found his bedroll and various personal items lieing around. I like people who are suspicious of people they don't know because it keeps everyone safer. I'd rather live a little paranoid and be safe than walk blindly through life. I've even become friends with one guy that I initially had some reservations about. He was driving an old beat up Fiero and looked pretty rough. After the 3rd trip through our neighborhood, he stopped and parked in front of my house and just sat there. I watched him for about 5 minutes and then walked up to him and asked him what he was doing there. It turns out he was going to Bible study at my neighbor's house and was early and didn't want to be the first one to arrive since it was his first time there. Now we joke about it and if I see him pull up, I'll stroll out with a pick handle in my hand and give him the "old stink eye". He'll usually respond by trying to steal something or threatening to kill me in my sleep.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

The unions haven't gone down. They are still here and they are evolving, especially the construction unions. Today they are working with their contractors to change harsh work rules and make them more competitive. Unions offer a fair pay, penison and health benefits. They no longer protect the inept or people who don't want to work. They are actively trying to change their public image.

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There are plenty of people who can work.Perhaps these farmers should provide transport or maybe quit trying to pay legal workers the same wages they pay illegals.

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Yep. They ship em up from Guatemala why not from a neighboring state or city?

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It makes sense.Farm work is seasonal, back breaking, in the hot sun and out of the way. These factors make the job extremely undesirable. That means that farmers can not pay legal workers the same wages they can illegals.And due to the job being extremely undesirable you can't pay them the same wages as someone working at a Wal-Mart or McDonalds. Transporting workers to a out of the way job and offering good pay for a job like would make it an extremely attractive job.

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"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”—Theodore Roosevelt