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Old 03-25-2012, 01:05 AM
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What is everyones opinions of the situation? I think it's BS he is being tried in the court of public opinion after a seasoned Homicide Investigator, Police Chief and Lead Prosecutor all said self defense.

Now the angry black community is trying to force charges on someone who may or not be innocent before the case is even closed.

I even figured Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Sr. would be smack in the middle of this.
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It's not just the "black community" that's angry, trust me.
It's every parent in the United States who has an empathetic bone in their body.
You don't have to be black to imagine what it would feel like if your teenage boy walked to the neighborhood convenience store for Skittles and a can of ice tea, and never came home again. You don't have to be black to imagine what it would feel like to know that your baby died trying to get home to you, that he was frightened before he died, and that the individual who killed him is the very one entrusted by the community to ensure the safety of all of its residents. You do not have to be black to imagine what it would feel like, then, if this individual was not even arrested.
It would be worse if you were black, and if the killer in question was heard muttering racist epithets on the 911 tape while pursuing your child... but it's bad enough even if you're white.
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Whatever the merits of the case, this is a made-to-order issue for the legions of drones who are unwilling or unable to give the matter any serious thought. Note the press connection between the incident and the rationally disconnected "Stand Your Ground" laws.

Yet another example of why I think that only a bout 25% of the adults in the country should vote in national elections. Thoughtless people have no business handling anything as dangerous as a ballot.
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Stand your ground has nothing to do with this case. Really enjoying the media coverage though. Talk about an axe to grind.
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Stand your ground has nothing to do with this case. Really enjoying the media coverage though. Talk about an axe to grind.
As I understand it without the law in place the police would have taken him to jail and the court would decide if the case was self defense or whatever. Under that law (I am told) the police make that call on the spot. So the law does affect this case imho.
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As I understand it without the law in place the police would have taken him to jail and the court would decide if the case was self defense or whatever. Under that law (I am told) the police make that call on the spot. So the law does affect this case imho.
It was a judgement call by the local police. I wonder why they made that decision? Maybe they know more than we do? Or maybe people are innocent until proven guilty?
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It was a judgement call by the local police. I wonder why they made that decision? Maybe they know more than we do? Or maybe people are innocent until proven guilty?
Yes I can't believe they would have walked away if there had been more, but ya never know. I'm glad there is going to be an investigation one way or the other.
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It was a judgement call by the local police. I wonder why they made that decision? Maybe they know more than we do? Or maybe people are innocent until proven guilty?
Never. Shut up and let Al Sharpton decide, racist.

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It was a judgement call by the local police.

~ I wonder why they made that decision?
Zimmerman calls 911 as often as possible, they probably all know him on a first name basis......

And you still wonder why.....?
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As I understand it without the law in place the police would have taken him to jail and the court would decide if the case was self defense or whatever. Under that law (I am told) the police make that call on the spot. So the law does affect this case imho.
If that is accurate, then I think people NEED to re-examine the "stand your ground" laws as I bet dollars to donuts a LOT of them would have different thoughts.

There was a defense attorney on another thread which commented that the "stand your ground" wouldn't cover this scenario where Zimmerman actively pursued Trayvon.
To me (and I think easily to a jury), "stand your ground" cannot be interpreted as "chase after the guy".

If the law would cover such a scenario, then it needs to be rewritten.
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