Animal officer allegedly drowned kittens

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 03:17 PM

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ADELANTO, Calif., March 19 (UPI) -- A California animal control officer has been charged with killing and maiming cats by allegedly drowning kittens.

Kevin Murphy was suspended with pay last week as head of the animal control office in Adelanto, the Los Angeles Times reported. He faces up to six years in prison if convicted.

Another employee who has not been charged was also placed on administrative leave.

James Hill, a prosecutor in San Bernardino County, said Murphy allegedly drowned as many as 50 kittens between July and October last year.

This story begs for the return of public stockades and buckets of tomatos...

saltwn · #2 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 06:06 PM

I don't see a problem unless they took money designated for gassing the kits and did otherwise with it.
I'm sick to death of control freak "authorities" sending people to jail for goodness sake over such trivial matters. Wouldn't our time and money be better spent in apprehending real criminals who endanger our streets every day?
Besides, can you see this guy talking to his future cell mate? "I'm in for giving my kid french fries at McDonald's, how 'bout you?"
"Drowning Kittens"
"Oh, man, I don't even want to breath your air, dude!"

crazyflamingos · #3 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I don't see a problem unless they took money designated for gassing the kits and did otherwise with it.
I'm sick to death of control freak "authorities" sending people to jail for goodness sake over such trivial matters. Wouldn't our time and money be better spent in apprehending real criminals who endanger our streets every day?
Besides, can you see this guy talking to his future cell mate? "I'm in for giving my kid french fries at McDonald's, how 'bout you?"
"Drowning Kittens"
"Oh, man, I don't even want to breath your air, dude!"

Are you kidding?

Drowning kittens is incredibly sick and cruel. And people who do such things are usually only a step or two from doing similar things to humans.

saltwn · #4 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyflamingos

Are you kidding?

Drowning kittens is incredibly sick and cruel. And people who do such things are usually only a step or two from doing similar things to humans.

If the mother cat deserts them there may be a reason they shouldn't survive [disease, over population, etc]. But let's not try to over annalyze this.

People who torture animals are sick and yes may have a future as a serial killer.
But drowning kittens? When they are first born they look a lot like rats. After an hour or two they get the fuzzy hair and begin to look cute.
They're too little for a bullet. And besides, that's a waste. The only bad thing about drowning is you don't know if they drift around with the tide to shallow water and then they may starve or suffocate. Better to put a sinker in the sack or box with them so you'll be sure to give them a quick death.
Honestly, I can't believe anyone would be concerned about this at all.
But then I was raised by my grandmother's generation (thank you , God) and as the article points out that is how it was done back then. As I said if the state gave this worker money to put them to sleep properly, then a crime has been committed. Otherwise. Much ado about nothing.

crazyflamingos · #5 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

If the mother cat deserts them there may be a reason they shouldn't survive [disease, over population, etc]. But let's not try to over annalyze this.

People who torture animals are sick and yes may have a future as a serial killer.
But drowning kittens? When they are first born they look a lot like rats. After an hour or two they get the fuzzy hair and begin to look cute.
They're too little for a bullet. And besides, that's a waste. The only bad thing about drowning is you don't know if they drift around with the tide to shallow water and then they may starve or suffocate. Better to put a sinker in the sack or box with them so you'll be sure to give them a quick death.
Honestly, I can't believe anyone would be concerned about this at all.
But then I was raised by my grandmother's generation (thank you , God) and as the article points out that is how it was done back then. As I said if the state gave this worker money to put them to sleep properly, then a crime has been committed. Otherwise. Much ado about nothing.

First of all. nowhere in the article did it say these were either newborn or abandoned by their mother.

Second this man was an employee of Animal Control and there was a shelter available where the kittens would have been euthanized properly.

Third, DROWNING IS SUFFOCATING! And it takes several minutes and it is terrifying.

How do I know? Because I drowned once! Try it some time if you think it is much ado about nothing.

Anyone who would subject animals to that when an alternative is easily available belongs in prison.

saltwn · #6 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 08:25 PM

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Anyone who would subject animals to that when an alternative is easily available belongs in prison.

As I stated, a bullet would be quicker. But if the state provided for another form of euthenasia, it points to the fact this guy was lazy and probably did something else with the money.
I am sorry you drowned. You are a human, and I care deeply about humans. I don't care the same way about animals. I have had some great pets. But they are still animals. I think there is a law on the books now in California (maybe just one city) that addresses population control with fines if you don't have your dog or cat neutered. It's sad it's come to that. But with the over population of humans in this country (due to immigration and other factors), it was probably inevitable. We love our pets. We just don't always care for them as we should. What I think is cruel is when someone of an advanced age (Knowing their days may be shorter than their pet's) has a cat de-clawed then croaks and the neighbors or family don't care for the cat and it roams the street without basic self defense.

crazyflamingos · #7 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I am sorry you drowned. You are a human, and I care deeply about humans. I don't care the same way about animals.

I think that it is very sad when a human being cannot empathize with any living creature that is forced to endure pain and terror.

Spencer Collins · #8 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyflamingos

I think that it is very sad when a human being cannot empathize with any living creature that is forced to endure pain and terror.

Totally agree,there are better ways today to handle this...

saltwn · #9 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyflamingos

I think that it is very sad when a human being cannot empathize with any living creature that is forced to endure pain and terror.

I did not say I cannot empathize with any living creature, for goodness sake! I said in so many words, but I'll say it plainly. I could drown very newborn kittens without batting an eye. Why? I have a good denial system. If something needs to be done out of necessity I could probably do it. It's nice to have the luxury of never having had to make that choice. Nowadays there are better ways. But I don't think drowning kittens warrants a jail sentence.

crazyflamingos · #10 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I did not say I cannot empathize with any living creature, for goodness sake! I said in so many words, but I'll say it plainly. I could drown very newborn kittens without batting an eye. Why? I have a good denial system. If something needs to be done out of necessity I could probably do it. It's nice to have the luxury of never having had to make that choice. Nowadays there are better ways. But I don't think drowning kittens warrants a jail sentence.

First of all, and once again, nowhere did it say that these were newborn kittens.

So you are not addressing what actually happened? That is a good denial system.

The choice that this man had to make was whether to drown these kittens or take them to the appropriate authorities so that they could be handled properly. He chose the sick, cruel way of handling them and he belongs in prison.

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