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Old 04-08-2008, 01:31 AM
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How do you know the AO didn't have a "soul wrenching" decision and just decide he had to go through with it?
Honestly, I'm sure there are women who agonize over abortion, but unfortunately some of them are as callous as our subject in this thread. The difference is one's human-one's not.
not to give anymore credence to this hostile takeover... but another difference is that one is born and one is not.

I will happily talk abortion does and don't s with you in the abortion section...

Christ, next someone will bring up gays... maybe all the kittens were gay!

Or democrats... they could have been liberal kittens and cnredd just couldn't take anymore lol(just kidding)

maybe it was symbolism... the 50 cats representing the thousands killed by the tsunami....

or maybe it was just some jackass getting his jollies off slowly killing 50 defenseless cats... just a thought
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I looked for an update to this story. Here is a related one:

In Adelanto, a low ebb for a high desert town

In Adelanto, a low ebb for a high desert town - Los Angeles Times


Alleged drowning of dozens of kittens by the animal control chief is only the latest in a litany of scandals to plague the town.
By David Kelly, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 26, 2008

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Adelanto may mean "progress" in Spanish, but many say this scruffy high desert community -- founded in 1915 by the inventor of the Hotpoint Electric Iron -- is perpetually stuck in a quagmire of corruption and scandal.
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Recent accusations of animal cruelty against Kevin Murphy, head of the city's animal control department, have once again fueled notions of a Wild West town operating on the fringes of the law.
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Murphy, 36, was charged last week with drowning more than 50 kittens in cages over a four-month period last year. He faces six years in prison if convicted and has been placed on paid leave pending his May 19 arraignment. Fellow animal control officer Patrick Cornell is also on leave but hasn't been charged.
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"I have a hunch they were newborn kittens, not cats picked up on the street," former Mayor Mary Scarpa said, quickly adding: "Not that it makes it OK, of course."
Scarpa, 81, is part of Adelanto's old guard. She was mayor in 1997 and knows Murphy personally.
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"We haven't had as many problems as the newspapers say we do," she said, relaxing at the town's senior center recently. "We are a growing city, and that sent some people over the edge. I think it's a very unfair charge to say the town is corrupt."
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Hart, the city manager, knows the allegations against Murphy are bad for Adelanto's image -- so bad that he's hired an outside public relations firm to cushion the fallout. But he said he is focused on the future.
In Adelanto, a low ebb for a high desert town - Los Angeles Times
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Sorry for the off-topic, folks. I've made my point in response to the original off-topic poster, and I will now cease and desist.

I still stand by my incredulousness at the fact that we are STILL discussing whether drowning cats is OK.
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Sorry for the off-topic, folks. I've made my point in response to the original off-topic poster, and I will now cease and desist.

I still stand by my incredulousness at the fact that we are STILL discussing whether drowning cats is OK.

If you are referring to your post here http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/ope...html#post21850, I think you made a valid point. Though now there is a thread for abortion related stuff. We were still talking about the animal officer and how we each viewed his actions.
I posted the only update of this story I could find. If anybody has any more I would be interested.
There has been a lot of discussion of this with varying view points around the net.
Evidently-just like the abortion issue- many people have come to the table with clear expectations ( in this discussion) that have not been met. Many are surprised that some of the others here take a different view than themselves.
Just shows how different we are and how similar in our view that others would "naturally" think as we do about certain subjects. Wow, those ambassadors and negotiators in other countries must have it rough. Just look at our own impasse and it's clear why on certain subjects in foreign lands are "on hold" to reach any kind of agreement. The Israeli/Palestinian situation ? Abortion in our own country's military ? Russia ?
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Good points all, saltwn.
Everyone seems to have their own definition of "common sense."
There's plenty of overlap, but the interesting part lies in the differences.
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No, a bullet to the head is quick for almost any creature(cockroaches can actually have their heads removed and survive for 7-9 days until the bodies starve to death). Whether or not you care about the creature, a fast death should be preferable to a slow one.
Actually, in this case, my biggest concern would be whether I would have to clean up the mess afterwards. And drowning is much cleaner than a bullet to the head. Even for humans.

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His crime was against animals. I think that in order to properly work with animals in any capacity, you need to have a certain appreciation and compassion for them. For instance, I think you would be an awful animal worker... I do not mean that to offend, you just don't have any compassion for the animals.
And I am not an animal control officer. Or a nurse. But I was a hell of an in-house bill collector though. I absolutely LOVED that job. That might give you a bit of insight.
I care about "my" animals. I have 2 old fat ass cats. Well cared for and loved. But I will not even attempt to stop for a stray one. I admit I despise stray cats. Since we are coming up with reasons why he did that, maybe he just hated cats too. Did he drown any puppies. He should be hung and then shot if he drowned a puppy.
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And I am not an animal control officer. Or a nurse. But I was a hell of an in-house bill collector though. I absolutely LOVED that job. That might give you a bit of insight.
I care about "my" animals. I have 2 old fat ass cats. Well cared for and loved. But I will not even attempt to stop for a stray one. I admit I despise stray cats. Since we are coming up with reasons why he did that, maybe he just hated cats too. Did he drown any puppies. He should be hung and then shot if he drowned a puppy.
I was almost a bill collector... changed my mind and became a truck driver

If he had drown puppies your scenario would be far too kind...

I actually hate cats too...
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I was almost a bill collector... changed my mind and became a truck driver

If he had drown puppies your scenario would be far too kind...

I actually hate cats too...
Maybe we should have just cleared that up in the beginning before we typed all that other drivel.
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