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pjohns 12-17-2011 08:01 PM

Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
I was disappointed that Ron Paul would not declare decisively, at Thursday night's GOP debate, that he will not run as a third-party candidate if he fails to secure the GOP nomination. He did indicate that it is not his current "intent" to do so; but he stopped far short of any Shermanesque declaration that he will simply not participate in any such matter.

And that, it appears to me, leaves the door wide open for the possibility of such a run; which I would view as both highly unprincipled and a boon to President Obama's chances for re-election.

Coyote 12-17-2011 08:22 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
Reminds me of Ralph Nader....

saltwn 12-17-2011 08:36 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 382351)
I was disappointed that Ron Paul would not declare decisively, at Thursday night's GOP debate, that he will not run as a third-party candidate if he fails to secure the GOP nomination. He did indicate that it is not his current "intent" to do so; but he stopped far short of any Shermanesque declaration that he will simply not participate in any such matter.

And that, it appears to me, leaves the door wide open for the possibility of such a run; which I would view as both highly unprincipled and a boon to President Obama's chances for re-election.

First point. If I were an all out Ron Paul supporter I would want someone who is all-in, and finishes the race he started. I respect him for his willingness to leave that option open and not be hemmed in by party in a country that has been crying out for a strong third party contender for some years now.
Second point. Don't count your chickens so fast. Paul draws from a very broad spectrum of political views. :thumbsup

762nato 12-18-2011 06:18 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
Ron Paul reminds me of Lyndon La Rousch

Dave1 12-18-2011 07:41 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 382368)
Reminds me of Ralph Nader....


A little.....



Ron Paul is smarter than Ralph though and he doesn't want to split the vote.......

Comet 12-18-2011 07:52 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
It would be extremely unwise, illogical and an extremely poor debate tactic to announce a third party run for president in 2012 while still attempting to win the GOP nomination.

Mr. Paul is correct in keeping quiet about any possible plans to do so.

Comet 12-18-2011 07:58 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
I will say this. A Mitt Romney GOP winner plus a Ron Paul Independent run would be bad for Republicans.

Romney is not very popular with Republicans and Paul would siphon votes away from the GOP voters who are not sold on Willard. It would increase the odds of an Obama victory.

And when Obama will certainly be the heavy favorite going into the 2012 election, you cannot afford to lose precious votes.

The silenced majority 12-18-2011 08:28 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
I find it funny that so many republican pundits (Hannity esp.) want this sort of pledge form Ron Paul not to run as a third party candidate, yet they did not seem to have any sort of problem with Donald Trump moderating a republican debate when he has said openly he will run as an Independent if the GOP nominates the "wrong" (Ron Paul) candidate.

The simple solution for people who want to beat Obama is to support Ron Paul for president.
Ron Paul has great crossover appeal for disaffected democrats due to his record on civil rights and war.
It is foolish to assume that if Ron Paul does not run is a third party candidate, somehow his supporters are going to vote for the eventual gop nominee.
They will likely stay home or vote 3rd party anyhow.

saltwn 12-18-2011 08:47 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The silenced majority (Post 382775)
I find it funny that so many republican pundits (Hannity esp.) want this sort of pledge form Ron Paul not to run as a third party candidate, yet they did not seem to have any sort of problem with Donald Trump moderating a republican debate when he has said openly he will run as an Independent if the GOP nominates the "wrong" (Ron Paul) candidate.

The simple solution for people who want to beat Obama is to support Ron Paul for president.
Ron Paul has great crossover appeal for disaffected democrats due to his record on civil rights and war.
It is foolish to assume that if Ron Paul does not run is a third party candidate, somehow his supporters are going to vote for the eventual gop nominee.
They will likely stay home or vote 3rd party anyhow.

I agree he has cross over appeal and someone must be afraid of that :shrug

Also it is interesting that the title of the article is a circle jerk all in itself :p
:p"commit to abstain from"???
:rofl2

pjohns 12-21-2011 07:07 PM

Re: Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 382377)
I respect him for his willingness to leave that option open...

If Ron Paul wishes to leave "open" the "option" of running as a third-party candidate, then he should do the honorable thing, and resign from the Republican Party.

In fact, he should have never participated in the Republican Party's nominating process, to begin with, if he feels no sense of party loyalty.

Fair enough?


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