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I was poking around on the internet today and I came across a few things that I found interesting.

The first being that the Federal government owns about 30% of all the land in the US, Printable Maps - Federal Lands , 650 million acres. That’s 2 acres for every person in the country. Please note, this does not include state owned land.
A vast majority of that being in the west according to this 2004 map (which I suspect hasn’t changed much) , http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.c...s_the_west.jpg .

This knowledge got me to thinking about some hypothetical situations.

1) Suppose the government were to offer you some free land to own/live on.
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2) Suppose you decided to just take residence on some unused government land to live on.

For both of my hypothetical situations, I am assuming that the land is accessible by reasonable means and for situation #2 that you could remain undetected for numerous years. For both scenarios, I am assuming that water is available (well or creek), a modest house (more like cabin) can be built by one’s own hands or paid for, and one can either manage to live off the land or eke out a living of some sort (travel to a place of employment). I am also assuming that conveniences such as electricity, piped in gas and modern plumbing are not available.

Remember now, this is free land, no mortgage payment. Hypothetically speaking, could you or would you live under those circumstances?
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but most of what isn't already leased is worthless.
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I was poking around on the internet today and I came across a few things that I found interesting.

The first being that the Federal government owns about 30% of all the land in the US, Printable Maps - Federal Lands , 650 million acres. That’s 2 acres for every person in the country. Please note, this does not include state owned land.
A vast majority of that being in the west according to this 2004 map (which I suspect hasn’t changed much) , http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.c...s_the_west.jpg .

This knowledge got me to thinking about some hypothetical situations.

1) Suppose the government were to offer you some free land to own/live on.
Or
2) Suppose you decided to just take residence on some unused government land to live on.

For both of my hypothetical situations, I am assuming that the land is accessible by reasonable means and for situation #2 that you could remain undetected for numerous years. For both scenarios, I am assuming that water is available (well or creek), a modest house (more like cabin) can be built by one’s own hands or paid for, and one can either manage to live off the land or eke out a living of some sort (travel to a place of employment). I am also assuming that conveniences such as electricity, piped in gas and modern plumbing are not available.

Remember now, this is free land, no mortgage payment. Hypothetically speaking, could you or would you live under those circumstances?
And the Govt. has plenty of ways to keep an eye open for intruders. From high above, choppers to the BLM, Parks & Recreation etc., and then state acencies. I know as I used their land in many locations from the S.W. to the mountains of the Rockies in several states... In one of the Rockies site they used a chopper but my fire place was covered as I knew it wouldn't be seen from above.

Several times (glad it was back in the late 70's to the late 80's) I was confronted and asked to relocate off Federal lands. But only once on AZ. land near a operating minning claim.

And I went so far into and area near the weapons firing range two tank busters the A-10's were hitting targets about 300 hundred yards from my PU with 11' cab over. I jumped out half dressed and got the hell out of there as quick as I could go.

And I went about evey place where no one lived. By then I had a PU and cab over. But today these places in the lower part of AZ, would be dangerous and enforced by the law.

A nice idea but I really doubt today one could live in any of these places very long. As once spotted they will check you out, period!

Now I was in a camping mode with no actual set up as I moved each week.
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No. Call me spoiled, but I enjoy all the amenities of suburban life. Worth every penny.
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but most of what isn't already leased is worthless.
Just 2 of the Y's (as in, why would you say that?).

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No. Call me spoiled, but I enjoy all the amenities of suburban life. Worth every penny.
Don't you mean urban? (just me nitpicking the words)
I suspect that most are like you when it comes to modern conveniences, nothing wrong with that.
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Just 2 of the Y's (as in, why would you say that?).

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You can probably stay a couple weeks but I don't see how you could just hang there indefinitely.
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You can probably stay a couple weeks but I don't see how you could just hang there indefinitely.
See option #1 in my hypothetical.
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No. But when I was 20-30 years younger, I probably would have jumped at such a chance.
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