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And Holder thinks that is worth wasting our time with raiding the place with weapons.....????
Without a doubt, that was probably not necessary.

I'm just wondering though, if it's SOP for all such type raids?

If it is, then it takes on less significance.






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Beyond pathetic.......( 4 ****ing millimeters )
A limit is a limit.

It would be easy to say that a 5% fudge factor is OK.

If 5% is OK, why not 10%?

How about 20%?

30%?

40%?

75%?


In other words, it quickly becomes a slippery slope that makes any limit useless.


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A limit is a limit.
4 mill's for wood.......??



That's quite insane imo......


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Lied about the size of the wood.




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I am more worried about the guns used in the raids going to mexican drug gangs in mexico. Also this is probably the biggest problem facing our country at the moment.

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I am more worried about the guns used in the raids going to mexican drug gangs in mexico. Also this is probably the biggest problem facing our country at the moment.

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There are bigger problems, but does that mean that less serious problems should be ignored? The DOJ is huge and is able to multi-task. Attention is not diverted from more pressing issues by investigating this case.

Despite what the thickness of the wood was, it was smuggled and mislabeled in order to avoid attention. That makes it illegal. So, just ignore it? It's like how we complain that police sit on the side of the road ticketing speeders, while murderers and thieves run loose. Law enforcement's job is to enforce all the laws, not just the most serious ones.
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4 mill's for wood.......??

That's quite insane imo......
It seems insignificant, only because the scale is so small.

In other words, Gibson was over the limit by 66%.

No different than if the limit on steel beams was 6 tons and someone tried to sneak in 10 tons.

I think the intent to deceive is clear, given the lying about the contents and lying about the company it was being shipped to.


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No. YOu guys don't get it. IT is not against US law. It is not even against INDIAN law. It is the US DoJ doing something for some other reason. Now use your head based on the way the DOJ has handled other cases.
Yes it is against Indian law and America has trade agreements with them and treaties.
Please don't believe political hype when you don't look at all the facts.
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Yes it is against Indian law and America has trade agreements with them and treaties.
Please don't believe political hype when you don't look at all the facts.
But if India has a problem with the wood obtained by Gibson, they should be cracking down on the SELLERS within their own borders and not getting the DoJ to do their dirty work on the BUYERS...

I'd understand if Gibson snuck into India and took the wood themselves...I think we can all agree that isn't the case...
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There are bigger problems, but does that mean that less serious problems should be ignored? The DOJ is huge and is able to multi-task. Attention is not diverted from more pressing issues by investigating this case.

Despite what the thickness of the wood was, it was smuggled and mislabeled in order to avoid attention. That makes it illegal. So, just ignore it? It's like how we complain that police sit on the side of the road ticketing speeders, while murderers and thieves run loose. Law enforcement's job is to enforce all the laws, not just the most serious ones.
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