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Mr. Obama's latest gambit is an old one: 'Divide and Conquer'.
Category: Class Warfare.

In this maneuver, the middle class is the pawn.

He set the groundwork for this by defining the "rich" as those who earn more than 250K/ year. Trouble is, that's anyone who owns a small business. And he knows it-
A lawnmower sales and repair shop. A mom and pop grocery. A cafe' on Main street in a small town near you.

These folks have to file their business under their personal taxes. That's the way it's set up. So on paper, they look rich, but they certainly are not. The money is invested in the business, and that's where it stays. They very likely have a personal income of less than 100K/year.

Now, this isn't just about demonizing these people for it's own sake, it's a means to an end. It's about getting more of their money, plain and simple.
But in order for the public to get behind it, they have to be made to look like part of the upper class. If not, no one could possibly want to take more from these folks who are really just middle class.

He's got to get that debt ceiling lifted so the dems can borrow more money - to spend. Tax increases by themselves aren't enough for this professional raiding party.

Look at what Mr Obama pulled this week:

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Kids versus corporate jets.

If President Obama's news conference accomplished anything on Wednesday afternoon, it underscored, in striking tones, his strategy for winning the debt ceiling fight with Republicans: Make it a clash of classes.

* Rich versus Poor.
* Us versus Them.

Those who support children, food safety, medical research and, presumably, puppies and apple pie versus the rich fat cats who don't.

In Obama's world, Democrats are for kids and Republicans are for corporate jets.
Exactly. This is diversionary. Make the Republicans the bad guys so their words have no value - and tax the rich.

Lies, lies, terrible lies.

-These people aren't rich , and they have kids too. < shock ! >
You see, the cornerstone of the Democratic party is spending to buy votes to get power and more money to buy votes and get more power and......for the dem politicians individually - to get fabulously wealthy.
Yes, many politicians are in it for the wealth it can bring them; in both parties. But which party is against small business? Well it ain't the Republicans, my friend.
If Mr Obama truly wants a recovery, this is NOT the way to go about it.
Small business creates a lot of jobs, and we can't afford to have job creation inhibited by over-taxation. We need every single job possible.

But in order for the dem machine to have more money to buy votes and take care of "stimulus" and all manner of giveaways, to buy more votes - they need it all.
They talk about the "working folks" and the "middle class". But that's a load of bull. They want it all and they'll take it if you let them. No matter how much it is, it'll never be enough.

Therefore, Mr Obama has seen fit to play the "tax the rich" card. Not the top one per cent, who pay plenty. But everyone. EVERYONE. This tax and spend party is a black hole no one can escape. It gobbles everything.

And that's what this is really all about: More money, more spending, more taxes, more spending.

More control.



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If unemployment were double (18%) what it is today and the economic growth was pitiful like it currently is, that would doom any President's chances of re-election, right? Not so fast, this doomsday scenario describes the situation confronting FDR in his re-election bid in 1936.

Our "greatest" President turned the dire situation into a sweeping electoral victory for himself and for Dimocrats in Congress. How? By carefully channeling New Deal funds to swing states, vote buying on a massive scale. Obama hopes to re-create FDR's strategy but needs to use the Treasury as his campaign war chest like FDR did. But, the Treasury needs more revenue for increased debt service. So, Obama attacks the "economic royalists" FDR campaigned against.

Hopefully the electorate is a bit more sophisticated today than in 1936. Perhaps they will recall the 300K WPA workers hired during the run-up to the election were dismissed after they had completed their real job, voting for FDR.
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It sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me.

Obama has definitely made some missteps and screw-ups, but the country is not going to hell-in-a-hand-basket.....like so many on the right keep screaming.

Without a doubt, we are going through one of the most serious economic times of our history, but that's exactly why it is not appropriate to continue to pander to those who are affected the least.

As far as fomenting hate and gloom/doom, the far right pretty much has had a choke hold on that for years with talk radio.

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It sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me.

Obama has definitely made some missteps and screw-ups, but the country is not going to hell-in-a-hand-basket.....like so many on the right keep screaming.

Without a doubt, we are going through one of the most serious economic times of our history, but that's exactly why it is not appropriate to continue to pander to those who are affected the least.

As far as fomenting hate and gloom/doom, the far right pretty much has had a choke hold on that for years with talk radio.

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Wishful thinking my a$$.

Unemployment has doubled under the Obama regime as has gasoline prices. Obama"s solution is to increase taxes on the more productive members of society. Yet you try to claim we are not "going to hell-in-a-hand-basket....."

The strategy of the OR is clearly to increase the Machevellian divide the left has been cultivating for almost 100 years.

Obama actually hasn't made "mis-steps" because his goal is to disrupt the economy in order to move toward socialism.

It is just comical when you leftists bemoan the existence of conservitive talk radio. Conservitive media outlets are perhaps 10% of the mass media while the left controls the rest. For example NPR, MSNBC, almost all major newspapers; Time magizine'; Newsweak (intentionally misspelled) etc.etc At least conservative media outlets define themselves as such. The left wing outlets disguise their slant by trying to claim they are diseminating hard news.

The left is fiercely critical of conservative news outlets and especially conservative women (like Palin and Bachman) because they cannot deal what is being said in the arena of ideas. Therfore they must mock it or discribe it with terms like " fomenting hate and gloom/doom" . This way they can try to silence ideas opposed to their point of view. This has always been the modis operandi of the left.
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If you needed any more proof that Mr. Obama is divisive, look at the level of partisan rancor these days. It's by design. "Divide and Conquer".

Deflect away from him and his destructive, bankrupting agenda and policies.

The ends justify the means.

Look at the Gates-Crowley incident:
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Gates was arrested for allegedly disorderly conduct -- a charge that was quickly dropped -- after a confrontation with a police officer inside his own home. Though some facts of the case are still in dispute, Obama showed little doubt about who had been wronged.

"I don’t know – not having been there and not seeing all the facts – what role race played in that, but I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two that he Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home," Obama said in response to a question from the Chicago Sun-Times's Lynn Sweet.

Gates, Obama allowed, "is a friend, so I may be a little biased here. I don't know all the facts."
Obama: Cambridge police acted 'stupidly' - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
And the dropping of the voter intimidation case in Philly:
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Justice Department political appointees overruled career lawyers and ended a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense of wielding a nightstick and intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling place last Election Day, according to documents and interviews.

The incident – which gained national attention when it was captured on videotape and distributed on YouTube – had prompted the government to sue the men, saying they violated the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring would-be voters with the weapon, racial slurs and military-style uniforms.

Career lawyers pursued the case for months, including obtaining an affidavit from a prominent 1960s civil rights activist who witnessed the confrontation and described it as “the most blatant form of voter intimidation” that he had seen, even during the voting rights crisis in Mississippi a half-century ago.
He doesn't care about the American people, only himself and his power and privilege.

We won't have a recovery until he's out of office.
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It sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me.

Obama has definitely made some missteps and screw-ups, but the country is not going to hell-in-a-hand-basket.....like so many on the right keep screaming.

Without a doubt, we are going through one of the most serious economic times of our history, but that's exactly why it is not appropriate to continue to pander to those who are affected the least.

As far as fomenting hate and gloom/doom, the far right pretty much has had a choke hold on that for years with talk radio.

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Sure it is all talk radio based alarmism. Which alarmist talk radio programs promulgated the following most in support of Obama's legislation:


- A crisis is a terrible thing to waste in support of the Porkulus.
- Global warming is a profound threat to the earth, in support of cap and tax.
- Greedy doctors want to cut off your foot, Obamacare.
- Greedy Wall Street fat cats want to keep you poor, financial deform.
- GM and Chrysler bankruptcy will end US auto manufacturing, nationalization.
- Hostage takers refuse to tax the rich, 2011 budget.
- They want to kill granny, opposition to Medicare reform.
- The US will default on its debts, raise the debt ceiling.

Since conservative radio has a "choke-hold" on gloom and doom it should be easy to point out which of them made the foregoing justifications for government expanding "reforms."
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This house-o-cards is comin' down in a year and a half. There's gonna be some wailing butt-hurt lefties. They'll prolly be setting **** on fire and such.
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Sure it is all talk radio based alarmism. Which alarmist talk radio programs promulgated the following most in support of Obama's legislation:


- A crisis is a terrible thing to waste in support of the Porkulus.
- Global warming is a profound threat to the earth, in support of cap and tax.
- Greedy doctors want to cut off your foot, Obamacare.
- Greedy Wall Street fat cats want to keep you poor, financial deform.
- GM and Chrysler bankruptcy will end US auto manufacturing, nationalization.
- Hostage takers refuse to tax the rich, 2011 budget.
- They want to kill granny, opposition to Medicare reform.
- The US will default on its debts, raise the debt ceiling.

Since conservative radio has a "choke-hold" on gloom and doom it should be easy to point out which of them made the foregoing justifications for government expanding "reforms."

Your doom and gloom alarmist posts are not helping. Stop being a racist and support our Dear Leader.
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Mr. Obama's latest gambit is an old one: 'Divide and Conquer'.
Category: Class Warfare.

In this maneuver, the middle class is the pawn.

He set the groundwork for this by defining the "rich" as those who earn more than 250K/ year. Trouble is, that's anyone who owns a small business. And he knows it-
A lawnmower sales and repair shop. A mom and pop grocery. A cafe' on Main street in a small town near you.

These folks have to file their business under their personal taxes. That's the way it's set up. So on paper, they look rich, but they certainly are not. The money is invested in the business, and that's where it stays. They very likely have a personal income of less than 100K/year.

Now, this isn't just about demonizing these people for it's own sake, it's a means to an end. It's about getting more of their money, plain and simple.
But in order for the public to get behind it, they have to be made to look like part of the upper class. If not, no one could possibly want to take more from these folks who are really just middle class.

He's got to get that debt ceiling lifted so the dems can borrow more money - to spend. Tax increases by themselves aren't enough for this professional raiding party.

Look at what Mr Obama pulled this week:



Exactly. This is diversionary. Make the Republicans the bad guys so their words have no value - and tax the rich.

Lies, lies, terrible lies.

-These people aren't rich , and they have kids too. < shock ! >
You see, the cornerstone of the Democratic party is spending to buy votes to get power and more money to buy votes and get more power and......for the dem politicians individually - to get fabulously wealthy.
Yes, many politicians are in it for the wealth it can bring them; in both parties. But which party is against small business? Well it ain't the Republicans, my friend.
If Mr Obama truly wants a recovery, this is NOT the way to go about it.
Small business creates a lot of jobs, and we can't afford to have job creation inhibited by over-taxation. We need every single job possible.

But in order for the dem machine to have more money to buy votes and take care of "stimulus" and all manner of giveaways, to buy more votes - they need it all.
They talk about the "working folks" and the "middle class". But that's a load of bull. They want it all and they'll take it if you let them. No matter how much it is, it'll never be enough.

Therefore, Mr Obama has seen fit to play the "tax the rich" card. Not the top one per cent, who pay plenty. But everyone. EVERYONE. This tax and spend party is a black hole no one can escape. It gobbles everything.

And that's what this is really all about: More money, more spending, more taxes, more spending.

More control.



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If that idiot Bush, even while giving his best effort, couldn't destroy this country............no one can.

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