South Carolina Taking Light Bulb Ban Into Its Own Hands - Page 3

GottaGo · #21 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sunwestdog

Saves the consumer money and lowers overall electrical usage, thus lowering out dependence on foreign oil. But because we don't want anyone telling us what to do, we will choose to do the opposite of the right thing out of spite.

Seems like childish rebellion to me. Why doesn't SC rip off all their catalytic converters while they're at it. There is rebellion against things that matter, and then there's rebellion against light bulbs.

Ya, I know. Here comes the slippery slope argument.

Having to dispose of the 'used item' as hazmat material saves future generations absolutely NOTHING.

The federal government once again intruding on our personal lives, WITHOUT CHOICES. Offer both, let people choose their option.

lizzie · #22 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Do you see no value in helping reduce our usage? Ya know why the WWII generation is great. They pulled together to support the country during tough times. But this "Me" generation just wants it all. Just drill more and don't ex[ect me to help. I think I like WWII values better.

Sure I see value in it, but you're preaching to the choir if you preaching to me. It's not the business of the feds to decide if I should be restricted on the type of lightbulbs to use. If you want to see reduction in light bulb energy waste, then turn off all the lights that are lighting the city skylines at night. My 10 light bulbs in my house don't use squat compared to what's wasted by municipalities around the country.

sunwestdog · #23 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lizzie

The economic system that I subscribe to says that I can spend the money that I make on whatever I wish, not based on the moral value of said product.

This has nothing to do with morals. My whole point is that switching bulbs not only saves the consumer money, but helps America use less oil. Just one tiny step of many that will help reduce our energy dependence.

You're not trying to go all Ayn Rand on us are you?

PT Again · #24 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sunwestdog

This has nothing to do with morals. My whole point is that switching bulbs not only saves the consumer money, but helps America use less oil. Just one tiny step of many that will help reduce our energy dependence.

You're not trying to go all Ayn Rand on us are you?

Please explain how these light bulbs are going to make us use less oil? unless they run cars..........it aint happening.

lizzie · #25 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sunwestdog

This has nothing to do with morals. My whole point is that switching bulbs not only saves the consumer money, but helps America use less oil. Just one tiny step of many that will help reduce our energy dependence.

You're not trying to go all Ayn Rand on us are you?

You are the one who used the R word (right), not me. You placed a moral value on legislation of lightbulbs.

As for going Ayn Rand, I did that many years ago.

sunwestdog · #26 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty

No he let's china do it for him and calls it good.......

Hmmm, I didn't realize Bucyrus, Ohio was is China. (that's where GE makes their long life florescent bulbs)

GottaGo · #27 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sunwestdog

Hmmm, I didn't realize Bucyrus, Ohio was is China. (that's where GE makes their long life florescent bulbs)

So there you go.

Buying light bulbs made in SC help the people IN SC, and help the environment by not having Hazmat materials to dispose of.

I rather support American rather than China.

sunwestdog · #28 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaGo

Having to dispose of the 'used item' as hazmat material saves future generations absolutely NOTHING.

The federal government once again intruding on our personal lives, WITHOUT CHOICES. Offer both, let people choose their option.

And they should also allow lead free paint and toys be optional. Let people decide if they want lead in their products.

GottaGo · #29 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sunwestdog

And they should also allow lead free paint and toys be optional. Let people decide if they want lead in their products.

That's putting hazards BACK INTO a product.

The CF bulbs are more hazardous than the conventional bulb.

sunwestdog · #30 (**permalink**) 05-10-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaGo

So there you go.

Buying light bulbs made in SC help the people IN SC, and help the environment by not having Hazmat materials to dispose of.

I rather support American rather than China.

Since most CFL's are made in America, you wouldn't be supporting China. The hazmat thing is blown way out of proportion. CFL's contain 1/100 the amount of mercury of a thermometer. As far as being good for the environment, here are a few facts.

World's largest manufacturer of energy efficient light bulbs increases manufacturing capacity to 1.4 - EnergyVortex

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TCP manufactures 70 percent of the compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) on the market through a variety of name brand, private label and other lighting manufacturers (OLMs), including n:vision at The Home Depot. Its energy saving lighting bulbs use 75% less energy than incandescent light bulbs and last an average of ten times longer. Consumers switching to CFLs can reduce their carbon dioxide emissions by more than 450 pounds and see an energy savings of $30 to $108 over the life of the bulb. TCP estimates the light bulbs it produces accounts for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by more than 50,000 tons per day.

Good for the environment, good for your pocketbook, good for America.

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