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Old 02-01-2011, 04:07 PM
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It's not "evil" motives that are the problem, it's just that the gov't is not motivated to be efficient. Run a gov't project into the red and you get more money from Uncle Sugar to make up the shortfall and keep your job. Run a private project into the red and your ass gets canned or you go broke. It's this difference in mindset that makes us mistrust the gov't when it tries to do things that it should be allowing private enterprise to do.
See, the govt operates the exact opposite way private groups do.

Govt departments get a specific budget. If they don't use up all of that budget or go over it, then they get LESS money the following year since apparently they didn't need their full budget to operate. So, each group's goal is to use up ALL of the budget funds and go over it just a bit so that they can get more money allotted to them the following year.

Private enterprise is the exact opposite, of course. Their goal is to cut their cost wherever possible. The govt's goal is to keep the status quo or exceed their costs.

It's retarded.
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Perhaps I was unclear.

I have very little faith in the purity of the motives of those who run most major corporations.

But I have even less faith in the purity of the motives of most US senators and congresscritters.

Put another way: I am a right-wing populist. I deeply distrust major corporations. Most of them, anyway. But I hold the federal government in even lower esteem.
At least I know where the line is and where we disagree. I hold major corporations to the lowest standard.
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I would imagine that most are the result of some people's belief that the CEO, the CFO, the COO, the president and vice-president of the company, and the board will prosper as a result of the impending merger...



I regret that you find those of us who are not enamored with Big Government theory to be in the grip of "lunacy"...
I just can't fathom trusting big CEO's more than the government. I think we live in a great country, including our government. I think that for being such a large country, our government has a very small amount of corruption. We should be concerned when we see corruption, yes, and we should talk about that corruption.

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It's not "evil" motives that are the problem, it's just that the gov't is not motivated to be efficient. Run a gov't project into the red and you get more money from Uncle Sugar to make up the shortfall and keep your job. Run a private project into the red and your ass gets canned or you go broke. It's this difference in mindset that makes us mistrust the gov't when it tries to do things that it should be allowing private enterprise to do.
Yes, but what can be done if there's a private industry that there's no viable competition for? What can be done to ensure it's not screwing over people? "The market will take care of it" when there's a private monopoly is like declaring that magic is real and can happen.

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See, the govt operates the exact opposite way private groups do.

Govt departments get a specific budget. If they don't use up all of that budget or go over it, then they get LESS money the following year since apparently they didn't need their full budget to operate. So, each group's goal is to use up ALL of the budget funds and go over it just a bit so that they can get more money allotted to them the following year.

Private enterprise is the exact opposite, of course. Their goal is to cut their cost wherever possible. The govt's goal is to keep the status quo or exceed their costs.

It's retarded.
True. But that doesn't mean that private industry does a better job, it just means that private industry does it in a more cost-effective way, and being more cost-effective does NOT equal better quality, in fact, usually quality goes by the wayside when cost-effectiveness is the number one concern.
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I just can't fathom trusting big CEO's more than the government.
Well, I suppose that is an accurate representation of my words. Sort of, anyway.

As I noted previously, I hold the chieftans of most major corporations in very low esteem.

I just trust the government even less.

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I think we live in a great country, including our government.
I agree with the aphorism: "I love my country, but I fear my government."
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It seems that every time the talk of more regulations comes up, its met with the argument that basically the government is bad, therefore more regulations are bad. And often times when they cite how bad the government is, it's not even related to the subject. It gets old.
And still, no specifics as to who said such things, just your claim that it happens "every time".
You seem to want to ignore the historical facts that exist.
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And still, no specifics as to who said such things, just your claim that it happens "every time".
You seem to want to ignore the historical facts that exist.
Look throughout the thread about Net Neutrality. It's full of it.
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Well, I suppose that is an accurate representation of my words. Sort of, anyway.

As I noted previously, I hold the chieftans of most major corporations in very low esteem.

I just trust the government even less.



I agree with the aphorism: "I love my country, but I fear my government."
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Look throughout the thread about Net Neutrality. It's full of it.
That would be one thread, not "every time".
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