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Old 01-29-2011, 05:21 PM
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The problem with a zealot explaining history is that it becomes unrecognizable to the rest of us.
Only to those that don't know the true history.
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Of course there isn't. The left doesn't have a representative in mainstream media that gets out a chalkboard and draw parallels that don't exist, nor does the left go "OMG! Fascism" at every turn.
You and I have discussed this before.

There is nothing stopping a talented commentator on the Left from doing what Beck, Limbaugh and Coulter do, except that the nature of the material does not lend itself to close examination from people contaminated by real-life experience.

Thus, Leftist material can be propounded in a college classroom and well received by intelligent by woefully inexperienced students who have spent their entire lives sheltered from harsh physical and fiscal realities, but not to a national audience of businessmen, craftsmen, farmers, laborers, housewives and service men. The later group have too many experiences that run contrary to the proposed social and government models of the Left.

You're bright, think about what I just wrote. It is true, it is obviously true, and resistance to that truth is self deception.
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Only to those that don't know the true history.
Doesn't that sound interesting?
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Doesn't that sound interesting?
Very, you should study up on it. What you were taught in school was incomplete and often times cherry picked to the point it was innacurate.
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If not for loans from another communist country our economy would have failed...Maybe there is a sweet spot in the middle.
I doubt it. But I embrace the idea of accepting healthy bitterness, and avoiding sweet toxicity.

Put another way, living within our means, even if we have to endure some hardships.
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The problem with a zealot explaining history is that it becomes unrecognizable to the rest of us.
Well, you have to read the grown up books.

If you're a victim of the Public Schools, it's not surprising that basic history is "unrecognizable."
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Very, you should study up on it. What you were taught in school was incomplete and often times cherry picked to the point it was innacurate.
And you don't think Beck Cherry picks??? Please. I was born on a Saturday but it wasn't last Saturday
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You and I have discussed this before.

There is nothing stopping a talented commentator on the Left from doing what Beck, Limbaugh and Coulter do, except that the nature of the material does not lend itself to close examination from people contaminated by real-life experience.

Thus, Leftist material can be propounded in a college classroom and well received by intelligent by woefully inexperienced students who have spent their entire lives sheltered from harsh physical and fiscal realities, but not to a national audience of businessmen, craftsmen, farmers, laborers, housewives and service men. The later group have too many experiences that run contrary to the proposed social and government models of the Left.
Civil rights don't clash with fiscal realities. Being anti-war doesn't clash with fiscal realities. Being anti-government-in-our-bedrooms doesn't clash with fiscal realities.
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You're bright, think about what I just wrote. It is true, it is obviously true, and resistance to that truth is self deception.
There's nothing deceptive about being pro-civil-rights, anti-war, and anti-government-in-our-bedrooms.
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Civil rights don't clash with fiscal realities. Being anti-war doesn't clash with fiscal realities. Being anti-government-in-our-bedrooms doesn't clash with fiscal realities.

There's nothing deceptive about being pro-civil-rights, anti-war, and anti-government-in-our-bedrooms.
Then add "social realities" to "physical and fiscal" realities. The point is the same. Using Beck's and other Right Wing Commentators' informative and historically grounded approach to to expression simply will not work for modern socialist, Leftist, hyper-secularized, Liberal, Leftist thinking.

It just won't. Analysis, information and adult experience force the rational mind to Conservatism. There is a golden market niche for Left wing Beck, Limbaugh or Coulter, and it cannot be filled.

The closest the Left has come is the mocker John Stewart, who is mistaken for an actual news commentator by much of his mentally anemic audience.

Again, there can be no "Left Wing Beck."
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And you base this comparison and pronouncement on . . .?

By the way, did you know that when the Soviet Union fell, and our Intelligence gained access to the KGB files, it turned out that one of their major top-flight concerns was Joe McCarthy, and that he might expose their extensive infiltration of the Federal Government?

History's just full of these lil' ironies, i'n'it?
Furthermore in the 1970's the Venona tapes were declassified. It turns out that the FBI had broken the Soviets code for transmitting information during the so called "Mc Carthy Era”. The Venona Tapes confirm all the accusations made by Mc Carthy. The FBI couldn't come forward with the information at the time because the Soviets would have known we broke their code.

It is interesting how the Left throws around Mc Carthy as some kind of boogie man when he should be a national hero. In addition to that Mc Carthy was not involved in any of the HUAC (House un-American Activities Committee) investigations. (Not that there is anything wrong with thos investigations.) Mc Carthy was a senator not a congressman. Also It Was Richard M Nixon that convicted and jailed the left wing saint Alger Hiss for spying. I guess they got back at Nixon for that with the Watergate witch hunt. Hiss when he got out of jail (he should have been executed) was given a high professorship at left wing Harvard.
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