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I answered Caucasian, cuz...uh...that's what I is.
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I never mailed in the form. I have had several visits from a census worker...I just didn't answer the door. I refuse to participate is such a waste of government time and money.
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Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

6:00 am May 26, 2010, by Bob Barr

Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry. This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey” conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.

What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.” If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.

That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government under the guise of simply counting the number of people in the country; but a landlord must give them access to your apartment whether you’re there or not, in order to gather whatever “statistics” the law permits.

In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving — private cell phone numbers from landlords in order to call tenants and obtain information from them. Isn’t it great to live in a “free” country?

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TITLE 13--CENSUS

CHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIES

SUBCHAPTER II--OTHER PERSONS

Sec. 223. Refusal, by owners, proprietors, etc., to assist
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Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the
Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

(Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Pub. L. 85-207, Sec. 17, Aug.
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Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

6:00 am May 26, 2010, by Bob Barr

Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry. This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey” conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.

What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.” If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.

That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government under the guise of simply counting the number of people in the country; but a landlord must give them access to your apartment whether you’re there or not, in order to gather whatever “statistics” the law permits.

In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving — private cell phone numbers from landlords in order to call tenants and obtain information from them. Isn’t it great to live in a “free” country?

Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence | The Barr Code


~~ And ~~

TITLE 13--CENSUS

CHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIES

SUBCHAPTER II--OTHER PERSONS

Sec. 223. Refusal, by owners, proprietors, etc., to assist
census employees


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Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the
Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

(Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Pub. L. 85-207, Sec. 17, Aug.
28, 1957, 71 Stat. 484.)
To and from. Not INTO. Access to your door or entrance ONLY. A landlord cannot bar them on the basis of a locked entrance door TO your apartment, or across common ground (courtyard) TO your apartment or rented house.

They do not have access INTO your residential space.

Though I think this census thing has gotten blown out of proportion on both sides, and with the information REQUIRED already available in most government accessable databases, the hype regarding intrusion has gotten one step this side of absurd.
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I too only gave them number of people living here, of course on April 1st I had a party but they didn't need to know that as there were a number of quests who stayed over.

For race I put down HUMAN!

And, no phone number. I have seen a census taker in our complex for a few days and he has been knocking on doors, but few people have answered.
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To and from. Not INTO. Access to your door or entrance ONLY. A landlord cannot bar them on the basis of a locked entrance door TO your apartment, or across common ground (courtyard) TO your apartment or rented house.

They do not have access INTO your residential space.

Though I think this census thing has gotten blown out of proportion on both sides, and with the information REQUIRED already available in most government accessable databases, the hype regarding intrusion has gotten one step this side of absurd.

As much as I dispise the idea of the census I have to agree that the title of that article is hyperbole.
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I'm glad political correctness didn't have its way back in the past centuries of our country. Censuses have been valuable tools for me in tracing my husband's genealogy. For one thing it gives you a name to start out your search or further a search.
In olden days the Catholic and other churches used to keep good records. Even today some of those are still not online. But if you have a starting point you can go elsewhere and know that yes this is the correct John Smith because his mama's name was Bessie and he had four brothers named Mutt, Jeff, Eenie and Meanie.
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I never mailed in the form. I have had several visits from a census worker...I just didn't answer the door. I refuse to participate is such a waste of government time and money.
Do you ever wonder if the time the census worker spends trying to get in contact with you (over and over) is just adding more waste?
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Do you ever wonder if the time the census worker spends trying to get in contact with you (over and over) is just adding more waste?
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We did, received a letter saying we needed to after it had mailed. Received a second form (tossed it), about 2 weeks ago they stopped by. Informed them I had mailed it and that they were interupting my work. They have not been back.

The gov't is nuts.....with all the illegals roaming around in this country its worried about legal citizens.......
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