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Be prepared for more of the same. Logic and humanity sometime oppose each other. And I usually side with logic.

How should I think differently about this issue? And "why" since this isn't our culture to change in the first place. I was just stating "why" I think that culture might place such a huge priority on chastity.
I am in agreement that it is not our culture and so it is none of our business. I would like to say that despite this, when Muslims move into our culture, it is of great importance that they understand that we do not permit women to be treated in such a manner here and that any criminal offense, whether it is cultural or not, will be met with criminal penalty.
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I am in agreement that it is not our culture and so it is none of our business. I would like to say that despite this, when Muslims move into our culture, it is of great importance that they understand that we do not permit women to be treated in such a manner here and that any criminal offense, whether it is cultural or not, will be met with criminal penalty.
I totally agree with you. I know you might not like that. But that just the way it is. So there.

We've had a slight problem with immigrants snatching up their 14 year old girlfriends and running back to Mexico when the police found out about them....Can't have 14 year old girlfriends in Ga....any more. LOL
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Meanwhile, for your consumption...

Now consider this...

There are 200 Muslims in Indonesia...1.3% ADMITTED to using violence already (That's 2.6 MILLION people of the population calculated out)...

40% are willing to "wage war" fo their faith...That's 80 million people, AP...More than TWICE the amount of the "Religious Right" in America...and that would be if 100% of the "Religious Right" answered the same way...which you damn well know they wouldn't...
Funny, but that's not the tally I got, or how I understood what I was reading...Only 1200 were polled, and of that, only 1.3 % admitted to having committed violence in the name of Islam...

And of those TALLIED and who had confessed to having committed violent acts in the name of their beliefs (that 1.3 %), would be willing to go to war...Not 40% of the total number of Islamics in Indonesia, but 40.3% of 1.3% admitting to violent acts, were willing to go to war...

By the way...the 40% you said would go to war? Wrong...That's the percentage of those polled who said that they would harm someone that blasphemed against Islam...And again, that's from that 1.3% group out of the whole poll, not out of all those polled...

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BTW - That's JUST Indonesia...Add up the number in all Islamic countries and you got over a COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION Muslims willing to wage war for
"faith" and "perceived insults to Islam"...
And yet, that doesn't in no way speak for all Muslims, nor is a real poll of even Idonesian Muslims...

That's the problems with polls...They're inaccurate at best and very subject to interpretation and innuendo...But hey...Since it fits your mindset you really don't care whether it's truthful or not, as long as it supports your own perceptions, right? LOL! Especially if those presenting the 'poll' and it's commentary support that same outlook too?

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If that doesn't make you day "WTF?", then you'll be more surprised than I when they get a hold of nuclear weapons and actually use them...
Right now, we have more real threats of nuclear war being started in Asia, not in the Middle East darling...Because it's our Asian counterparts who actually have made and tested nuclear weapons this year...And deffinately are using that threat towards ourselves and their neighboring countries they've been in conflict with over the centuries...


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That cool...anything you disagrre with, you can just call it a "ghost" and mock another's stnce on things like destroying life or tradition values...

How "gouche"...I suggest putting on a black beret and sunglasses and head on down to the club to do poetry...
ROTFLMAOL!!! Look how quickly you jump positions there Redd...I use your own logic towards you, and suddenly 'no, that's not ok and you're destroying life/traditional values'...

Like I said...Your whole argument is 'do as I say, not as I do'...You're willing to sit in judgement on others, judge them by your standards...But you aren't willing to be judged in the same manner as well as expect not to conform yourself...

Can we say 'hypocritical'? Cause that's what that argument is...Hypocrisy at it's best. And a whole lot of denial on top.

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But the "my way" is society's choice to make, not individuals that immigrated from elsewhere...
Unless you're pure American Indian darling...You are an immigrant or from immigrant roots. So if we are going to go the route you're suggesting now? Then darling? You need to start realizing that our nation is a melting pot of many cultures, nationalities, and practices. That there is no one culture, no one nationality represented, and no one belief/practice held above any other...

When in Rome, do as Romans do...Live and let live.

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WHAT?!?!?!?!!?....Live and let live?!?!?!...

How simple can this be?...

That's a FAR cry from "Live and Let Live"...
I didn't stutter darling...But you do seem a tad hard of 'reading'...I say that, cause one can't 'hear' what's read.

I explained in great detail, the 'culture' of Rome...Which was a culture of many cultures giving nor pressing one particular belief over another,giving all beliefs equal time...And they expected visitors to respect that. Live and let live...can't get no simplier then that.

Here's a little blurb from the Code of Chivalry I like...It's the same thing pretty much...

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Though there may be differences between those of the Old Ways, diverse covens and circles may well have diverse views. These views, even if they are different than yours, should always be given respect. When a coven, circle, clan, or grove is visited or joined, one should discern quietly thier practices, and abide thereby.
This isn't saying to give up your own practices or views when visiting or residing in another coven/clan/grove...It's saying to practice your ways privately, without letting them interfer with host's practices. To respect their ways, even participate if it will foster good relations with those different then yourself...To find a balance between respecting their ways as well as maintaining your own.

What gets me about this whole topic, is that there's actually no proof that the girl would have been killed...That it was her fear of 'maybe' that encouraged her to do what she did...And that the writer of the article (as well as the readers of the article) also interjected their own imaginings to the 'what if' without really finding out IF such a thing would have occurred if the girl hadn't had the operation...

LOL! Just my whole take on the topic and in the responses I've read from certain posters about the topic...Interesting to say the least.

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I totally agree with you. I know you might not like that. But that just the way it is. So there.

We've had a slight problem with immigrants snatching up their 14 year old girlfriends and running back to Mexico when the police found out about them....Can't have 14 year old girlfriends in Ga....any more. LOL
I don't mind if you agree with me or I agree with you. By the way, I did want to commend you on playing nicely around here. I told you I would be pleased if you proved me wrong.
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I am in agreement that it is not our culture and so it is none of our business. I would like to say that despite this, when Muslims move into our culture, it is of great importance that they understand that we do not permit women to be treated in such a manner here and that any criminal offense, whether it is cultural or not, will be met with criminal penalty.
Thank you IP...I agree with ya 100% there.
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I don't mind if you agree with me or I agree with you. By the way, I did want to commend you on playing nicely around here. I told you I would be pleased if you proved me wrong.
I'm still trying to figure out what gave you your impression of me. My "style" is dictated by who I'm debating. I can be an ******* no doubt, but usually I have my reasons. That's why I was asking, so I could give my "motivation" for coming across the way I was.

After reading some of your posts, we agree on many things. Not all mind you, but many.
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I don't mind if you agree with me or I agree with you. By the way, I did want to commend you on playing nicely around here. I told you I would be pleased if you proved me wrong.
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I'm still trying to figure out what gave you your impression of me. My "style" is dictated by who I'm debating. I can be an ******* no doubt, but usually I have my reasons. That's why I was asking, so I could give my "motivation" for coming across the way I was.

After reading some of your posts, we agree on many things. Not all mind you, but many.
I say you go to PMs with this...

No need for displays of personal conversation...
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IMPORTANT to all men seeking to marry virgin brides,or you are already married and want to know if you were duped by hymenoplasty.

The ONLY guaranteed virginity test is through Extrasensory perception(ESP)/remote viewing/psychic ability.TRUTH cannot be hidden in the conciouse field.This is a natural ability(not sacred gift) which every human being is born with.I advise you to learn it yourself,there`s alot of information online...OR pay someone if you are lazy.

ESP is not bound by time or distance or space...you can see in the past and future.In an era of surgically repaired hymen,anal and oral sex...with ESP you can see even oral sex in the past.Intelligence agencies i.e CIA has been using this for decades,check Russell Turg and the work he did for CIA during Iran hostage situtation and Chinese misile test.

Considering the wave of feminism about banning virginity testing, if you really value purity of your future spouse, all is not lost.
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