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'Anything goes' on Philly streets, teen says

By Ismael Estrada and David Mattingly
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PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- On the streets of Philadelphia's toughest neighborhoods, just trying to get ahead can get you killed.



You got a good-looking girlfriend, you're going to get shot; someone wants her," said 17-year-old Andre, who asked his last name not be used for this article.

"If you're getting a little money, you're going to get shot -- someone wants that. Any way you look at it, it's just a bad situation."

Andre is caught up in the tough life on the streets of Philadelphia's Southside neighborhood. At 13, he watched his brother get shot and killed in front of his home by another teenager. By 15, he was wanted for two counts of armed robbery and theft.

"It makes you feel stronger, powerful, a bigger man," he said of having a gun. "You even walk differently when you have a gun on you."

He and others like him are the new face of violence in Philadelphia -- a younger, harder generation that lives and dies by the gun. Though it's spread throughout the city, the problem of youth violence is most acute in the southern, southwestern and northern parts.

Over the past couple of years, Philadelphia's murder rate reached highs not seen since the 1980s, according to the Philadelphia Police Department. So far this year, more than 315 people have been killed, a pace of well over a murder a day, police said. That's a higher rate, according to FBI statistics, than much larger cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York.

But Philadelphia's situation is different today from years past in that more and more of the killers are teenagers, according to the Philadelphia Police Department and the Philadelphia District Attorney's office.

"They just shoot at anything and everybody, without even looking," said Shawn Banks, a former drug dealer and gang member. Now in his 30s, he said the new generation that rules the streets is made up of kids who shoot first and never consider the consequences.

"They [are] not respecting themselves and they don't have any value for human life," he said.

Nineteen percent of those held at Philadelphia's overcrowded juvenile detention center, The Youth Study Center, are guilty of committing violent crimes. This is in addition to those juveniles serving time at a nearby adult facility for more serious violent crimes like murder. Nearly one in four juveniles at the center become repeat offenders.

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Yeah...It's been that bad for awhile...We even had a "Junoir Black Mafia" here a few years back...

It's a typical thing which will carry over to all major cities...

Once the good people go to the suburbs, the cities will have nothing left but people who live off entitlement programs with no incentive to legitimately improve life...and no jobs available from business owners because they've already am-scrayed...

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Yeah...It's been that bad for awhile...We even had a "Junoir Black Mafia" here a few years back...

It's a typical thing which will carry over to all major cities...

Once the good people go to the suburbs, the cities will have nothing left but people who live off entitlement programs with no incentive to legitimately improve life...and no jobs available from business owners because they've already am-scrayed...

Escape from New York & Mad Max...
That's true even in my area,what was once working class polish neighborhoods are now filled with gang activity! I left the big city 18 years ago,the only excitement we have in the country is an occasional car deer mishap and the never ending rural gossip....
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that makes me sad

I grew up outside Philadelphia - (New Hope in Bucks County). Philadelphia was always very civilized.

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that makes me sad

I grew up outside Philadelphia - (New Hope in Bucks County). Philadelphia was always very civilized.

Where'd you get that idea?!?!...

This is the same town where the mayor blew up a city block of houses back in the 80s...

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that makes me sad

I grew up outside Philadelphia - (New Hope in Bucks County). Philadelphia was always very civilized.

I went to high school in Philly. Northeast High. The Northeast and Fox Chase area weren't so bad but whenever I go back it seems worse and worse. Most of the family has moved out of the city. Shame. The Northeast still seems ok.
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I went to high school in Philly. Northeast High. The Northeast and Fox Chase area weren't so bad but whenever I go back it seems worse and worse. Most of the family has moved out of the city. Shame. The Northeast still seems ok.
I drove by there about four hours ago...
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Where'd you get that idea?!?!...

This is the same town where the mayor blew up a city block of houses back in the 80s...

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I vaguely remember hearing about that.

I was long gone. LOL I graduated in '71 - went to New York - and never looked back!

When I was in high school, we used to take the Amtrak to Philly on Saturdays and sit around Rittenhouse Square and play acoustic guitar and sing folk songs.

We never worried for a second about being accosted by anybody.
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I vaguely remember hearing about that.

I was long gone. LOL I graduated in '71 - went to New York - and never looked back!

When I was in high school, we used to take the Amtrak to Philly on Saturdays and sit around Rittenhouse Square and play acoustic guitar and sing folk songs.

We never worried for a second about being accosted by anybody.
You could still do that without any problems...

There are certain setions of the city I wouldn't set foot in tough...Mainly West & North...
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I vaguely remember hearing about that.

I was long gone. LOL I graduated in '71 - went to New York - and never looked back!

When I was in high school, we used to take the Amtrak to Philly on Saturdays and sit around Rittenhouse Square and play acoustic guitar and sing folk songs.

We never worried for a second about being accosted by anybody.
Yeah but Rittenhouse square is the richer historical district of downtown Philly. I use to work at Pennsylvania Hospital. That area has always been relatively safe.
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