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Old 11-24-2009, 02:34 PM
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Letís be clear: If an alleged criminal merely happens to be a Muslim, then religion may well be immaterial. But if his crime is committed in the name of Islam, then religion serves to motivate. In that case, the suspectís Muslim identity absolutely matters. Words, gestures and images should be analyzed Ė fully, openly and honestly.
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The muslim religion had nothing to do with the Ft. Hood shooting. The cause of the shooting was the US military's refusal to discharge him after he made it clear he did not want his service extended and he did not want to be deployed to Iraq. He served 20 years, I think the army brass could of shown some flexability in his case. But they didn't. Not only did they not discharge him, they ignored all the warning signals he was sending, after realizing he wasn't going to be released from military service. Kind of reminds me of Bush ignoring all the signs about UBL determined to attack this country.

This is another example of how cancerous the neo-conservative movement is to this country.
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The muslim religion had nothing to do with the Ft. Hood shooting. The cause of the shooting was the US military's refusal to discharge him after he made it clear he did not want his service extended and he did not want to be deployed to Iraq. He served 20 years, I think the army brass could of shown some flexability in his case. But they didn't. Not only did they not discharge him, they ignored all the warning signals he was sending, after realizing he wasn't going to be released from military service. Kind of reminds me of Bush ignoring all the signs about UBL determined to attack this country.

This is another example of how cancerous the neo-conservative movement is to this country.
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Letís be clear: If an alleged criminal merely happens to be a Muslim, then religion may well be immaterial. But if his crime is committed in the name of Islam, then religion serves to motivate. In that case, the suspectís Muslim identity absolutely matters. Words, gestures and images should be analyzed Ė fully, openly and honestly.
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Irshad Manji is Muslim.

Letís be clear: If an alleged criminal merely happens to be a Muslim, then religion may well be immaterial. But if his crime is committed in the name of Islam, then religion serves to motivate. In that case, the suspectís Muslim identity absolutely matters. Words, gestures and images should be analyzed Ė fully, openly and honestly.
All those emails and crap were just symptoms of the problem, not the problem itself. If you look at the timeline of events, he didn't start going whack until it was apparent he was going to be "stop-lossed" and deployed to the ME. That was the trigger. What he did after that I completely condemn and hope he spends the rest of his life in prison with no possibility of parole. With that being said, the main problem here is what these bull**** wars are doing to the people that have to fight them.

This was not a terrorist attack. I just can't see a sleeper cell living 20 years with no incidents before it acts.
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This was not a terrorist attack. I just can't see a sleeper cell living 20 years with no incidents before it acts.
That was not the model we should be aware of. His model is the one where a Muslim has an awakening. He becomes more and more devout then takes the Koran literally and seriously and then acts on his beliefs.
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That was not the model we should be aware of. His model is the one where a Muslim has an awakening. He becomes more and more devout then takes the Koran literally and seriously and then acts on his beliefs.
I have no doubt those people are out there. But to say that apply's in this case, you'd have to turn a blind eye to a lot of extenuating circumstances that indicate otherwise.
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