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But isn't that a little like saying, "One of the best sloths ever!"

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Well....there is this:

http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/int2.pdf
Congressman Dennis Kucinich

ah...the old billy got impeached over a blow job lie again...

if you believe bush or cheney are impeachable, sign the petition, call your representatives & get it started already...

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"To educate a man in mind but not in morals is to educate a menace to society." --- Theodore Roosevelt

BC was impeached for lying about a blowjob. That is true. Bush and Cheney have both lied. I just should you a video of both of them lying. Telling half truths is lying. Not correcting a story when you know the facts is lying. Leaving folks confused about facts. And you use that deception for your own purposes is criminal.

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BC was impeached for much more than lying about a blowjob...

First, he lied to a federal grand jury under sworn testimony...There are actual laws against that that were already written...Second, he also obstructed justice by getting others to lie in their sworn testimony...

Where can you show me a law that says Presidents(and VPs) are restricted from lying?...Three points...

1) Do you believe every person in the world has lied at some point?...I do...It's part of human nature...And presidents(and VPs) are not exempt from this...

2) I don't think any rational person could sit there and think that any president(and VPs) that ever existed went through their time in office without lying...Whether it's for national security, national interests, deceiving enemies, or sometimes even personal reasons, I'm willing to say that EVERY president(and VPs) has made an end-around on the truth at some point...

3) The press is guilty of creating an atmosphere where sometimes THEY actually lie, omit, or tell half-truths in order to get a president or VP into a corner...This is pretty new, which exposes something that's been there through every presidency but now comes to the forefront because of 24 hour media coverage, the internet, and new communications technology...

Presidents of yesteryear were made to look clean and pristine because the press didn't attack them like gutting a fish...One example is the press's willingness to never photograph FDR in his wheelchair...How long would that unwritten rule last today?...

If every president had to go through what current presidents have had to, JFK would've been seen as the world's biggest liar in a matter of months...

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First on Clinton. Your right he lied. And it was illegal. But was there an outcry from the country to impeach him for it. Or was it a way for the right to attack him. I think the later. I will never forget republicans on the house floor with crocodile tears about our children having to hear the sorted details. At the same time they did everything they could to put the story out. Don't you remember when the line of SUV's from the justice dept. met the line of SUV's from congress. In the middle of the road they passed the boxes of info off. You don't think that was for the press? Is that how they always do it? Of course not. It was another gotcha moment designed by the right to further humiliate a POTUS that they still can't stand.
Now on the lying. Everybody lies to some degree. No doubt. It is important that on matters that could mean the death of Americans that there is no confusion. In this case they confused the situation purposely. Remember what Lincoln said about fooling some of the people. It has come home to roost. They lied for reasons of self protection from critics. They lied to go to Iraq. They lied about the threat. They diregarded many experts. like Richard Clarke, Gen. Shinseki, The weapons inspectors disagreed. I could go on and on. Suffice to say. They lied and people have died. Is that the case with Clinton? It may be with other presidents but this is today. We are in hot water internationally. Even our closest allies are quiting us. I don't want to beat down Bush/Cheney. I just want them to go.

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The effort is a bit more widespread than your run-in with those grassroots petition-gatherers would suggest, bless their hard and thankless work.

Join Wexler's Call for Cheney Hearings
Help Support The Impeach Cheney College Poster Campaign

Responsible in no small part for "one of the best wars ever!"

Addendum: Just in case it needs clearing up, I was referring to the fact Veeps in general don't do a heck of a lot.

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And some think they are unaccountable....

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