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Old 12-25-2019, 11:09 AM
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blackmailing the leader of Ukraine
enriching himself through public office
running a bogus charity (convicted)
obstructing congress
obstructing justice
breaking campaign finance laws
there are more if I look em up; those are off the top of my head
still not a hater though you would like me to be to justify your defending the guy
Not what happened, but since you are focused on spreading deliberate lies I can see how this one appeals to you.
The man doesn't even collect a salary, and is the only president to have his net worth decrease while he is office. Another deliberate lie.
Evoking executive privilege isn't obstruction of congress. Also, obstruction of congress by the president isn't a crime.
Since Trump has been trying to get to the bottom of corruption and illegal actions by former government officials, I have a hard time seeing that as obstruction. Since Schiff and Pelosi are trying to obfuscate and redirect attention away from the real crimes committed by members of the DNC, maybe they should be the ones facing this charge.
Breaking finance campaign laws? Have to point out what laws and how. Since even paying for a taxi can be construed as breaking FCL's, I don't put much stock in them.
Yes, every article you push, every opinion you express, every time you come on here, you exude hatred and contempt, not only for Trump, but for every decent American citizen who wants fairness and justice from our government and its representatives.
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blackmailing the leader of Ukraine
enriching himself through public office
running a bogus charity (convicted)
obstructing congress
obstructing justice
breaking campaign finance laws
there are more if I look em up; those are off the top of my head
still not a hater though you would like me to be to justify your defending the guy
If we listen to the President of the Ukrainian government there was no pressure from President Trump. It's a measure of Resistance desperation they call the Ukrainian President a liar to justify smearing Trump.
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Not what happened, but since you are focused on spreading deliberate lies I can see how this one appeals to you.
The man doesn't even collect a salary, ...
Oh? Does he donate it to a faux charity that is really a slush fund such as a crime he was recently convicted of?
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Oh? Does he donate it to a faux charity that is really a slush fund such as a crime he was recently convicted of?
His salary is returned to the largest slush fund in the world. It is called the United States Treasury. If you actually had a clue it would make debate more interesting. Trump hasn't recently been convicted of any crime.
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blackmailing the leader of Ukraine
enriching himself through public office
running a bogus charity (convicted)
obstructing congress
obstructing justice
breaking campaign finance laws
there are more if I look em up; those are off the top of my head
still not a hater though you would like me to be to justify your defending the guy
All of this is speculation and conjecture with no basis in truth. None of this has been proven likely, much less true. Where are the warrants?

But then truth and a radical leftist mind seldom occupy the same space. The only truth you continue to prove is that statement.
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His salary is returned to the largest slush fund in the world. It is called the United States Treasury. If you actually had a clue it would make debate more interesting. Trump hasn't recently been convicted of any crime.
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All of this is speculation and conjecture with no basis in truth. None of this has been proven likely, much less true. Where are the warrants?

But then truth and a radical leftist mind seldom occupy the same space. The only truth you continue to prove is that statement.
Just on the one point
Read and weep, gentlemen:

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation
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Read and weep, gentlemen:

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation
Oh golly, you're right. I'm going to vote for the Democrat candidate now because of this.
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Read and weep, gentlemen:

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation
I realize you don't understand the difference, but that isn't a conviction of anything it is a monetary judgement.
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Just on the one point
Read and weep, gentlemen:

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation
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I realize you don't understand the difference, but that isn't a conviction of anything it is a monetary judgement.
It's not only not a conviction, but it's not a monetary judgement either...The New York Times LIED in the headline...

From the actual article...

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The settlement, which was finalized last month and announced on Thursday in the judge’s order, included a detailed admission of misconduct that is rare for the president, who has long employed a scorched-earth approach toward fighting lawsuits.
The SETTLEMENT...

The judge can only APPROVE what the finalized negotiations between the two parties have established...He didn't "order" a damn thing...no
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Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation
Can't a leftist EVER tell the truth? Not a "conviction" it was a settlement to appease rabid NY regulators. No money was misused, stolen or misdirected or misappropriated or used to finance the campaign (all claimed in the MSM).

The circumstance was, Trump dropped out of a debate that was being broadcast on Fox (this was when he was feuding with Megan Kelley and she was a moderator) and held a fundraising event for veterans instead.

The campaign organized the event and ran the show but set-up the Trump Foundation website as the donation portal. Of the total money raised, ($5.6 million) the Trump Foundation dispensed about half of the donations immediately to dozens of pre-chosen charities.

The rest of the money was dispensed BY THE CAMPAIGN at campaign events to local veteran's charities in the different towns he was visiting over the following months before the election.

Snopes says:
"Around half of the $5.6 million raised by Trump during his veterans’ charity event on 28 January 2016 was initially paid to the Donald J Trump Foundation, before then being distributed to veterans groups. The rest of the funds raised were donated directly to veterans charities, without first passing through the foundation. It’s inaccurate to say that the money ended up in the candidate’s personal account or was used to fund his presidential campaign."
So yeah, this set-up ran afoul of NY rules governing foundations (where the foundation was chartered) and how funds are dispensed from donations. I don’t see nefarious intent or actions other than trying to garner some local press beneficial to the campaign at campaign stops, handing out checks from the January fundraiser to local charities.

Meh . . .
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