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I saw this in salty siggy in 4th July thread. But didn't want to post my thoughts in that thread.. I love America.. Not so much our current Govt., way of doing business.

Having way to many Lobbyist, and big money gets every Politicians ear and hand shake and big money wins..

Heck in the near future I can envision we will be a Democracy in word only..

America has to find a better way at campaigns funding as big money owns those running to a degree. Surly not the common man.

So I quote this;
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,

Every citizen thinks to change Govt., the only way is to vote.. Naw, wrong. See bold above.. It will work best if all agree for change.

After 241 years we need to clean out our current political system and start over fresh.

And I have suggestion on this too. Do you have any ideas, thoughts or opinions relating to this bold statement?
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I don't know how we'd go about it except refusing to buy products. pick one a month. that might bring the lobbyists down and jerk a knot in the politicians' tails.
one month we could all conserve gasoline
boycott a different grocery store each month till they demand labeling of gmo's
any product or service that screws people and lobbies the hill.
but we'd have to do it en mass.
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OP wrote We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Lately it seems to have morphed into...

... 'Life, Liberty...

... and the pursuit of Harpiness'.
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I don't know how we'd go about it except refusing to buy products. pick one a month. that might bring the lobbyists down and jerk a knot in the politicians' tails.
one month we could all conserve gasoline
boycott a different grocery store each month till they demand labeling of gmo's
any product or service that screws people and lobbies the hill.
but we'd have to do it en mass.


As many people as possible stop voting period.. And as many citizens call or write their House/Senate persons and state;

We as citizens want the current house and Senate to step down and remove yourselves from service..

And the citizens need to join political action groups to become one voice..
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See if we don't get things changed and soon we face a very big problem! Money.

Every thing goes up in cost each year (but our pay checks) And our Govt., grows larger each year..

In just a few years we won't be able to pay for this monster machine..

And present Govt., is find with enlarging the Govt. And would never stop it from growing larger.

And what one whistle blower showed is how much they waste on programs not needed. Snowden is whom I am taking about.

a few could have been used if they were set targets areas. Not all of America which was the Target.

And this is but one Whistle Blower of the few whom have stepped forward to expose wasted funds.

Plus we all know Medic Care are over billed. S/S is losing funds by the billions. and the list just grows. One would scream if they saw how many BLACK Project are drawing big funds..

Secrecy means hide the money these days. And I have just touched the surface of what wasted funds.

Have you any thoughts on the above?
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As many people as possible stop voting period.. And as many citizens call or write their House/Senate persons and state;

We as citizens want the current house and Senate to step down and remove yourselves from service..

And the citizens need to join political action groups to become one voice..
no don't quit voting. then we truly give in
vote and take a friend to vote
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no don't quit voting. then we truly give in
vote and take a friend to vote
Wrong as when you vote it is telling either party you are okay with what they are doing. And I am not!

What the upset citizen needs is town hall meeting to begin with. Where each is given the truth on big money campaigning and the fall of Democracy if big money continues to get their way.

On HBO there is this documentary film about the above and some rich people that give only to those looking to change the way campaigns are being funded.

So wake up as the idea is to bring changes. So those looking to change this sorry way of being elected need to stop till we do get change.

How many times have we been told that a New World Order is coming. Well I am talking about its arrival in this thread. You have to see the entire picture salty not a small part of it.

Because once we lose Democracy the New World Order has arrived.. And then can't be stopped.
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OP wrote We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Lately it seems to have morphed into...

... 'Life, Liberty...

... and the pursuit of Harpiness'.
Now I do understand the point... Like me, you're looking for the values to return if in name only. As it is a start.

Take schools as our young learn from it or are suppose to anyway.. Look at it this way.
Hear the term "Schools" just how many connected ideas were flashed in your mind waltky? Were these some of them?
1. Drop outs
2. Very Low International Scoring for Public Schools in America.
3. Every class in every school does have many talented prospects.
4. Schools need to teach local and national "how life was in grandpa's and daddy days.
Local customs, values, needs, etc.

Overseas schools do better on average in teaching large numbers of our youth in average size class rooms. Back when I and my 3 younger brothers did a stint I]n Military Bases Learning Centers.[/I]

We had a class room size of mid thirties. And we all had teacher support when ever any teacher thought we needed it.. She made sure I had direction..

How many reading this can Point to mid schooling where any class teacher would for many different reasons. See to your learning real life and the proper ways to react to other situations.

In short wanted to see you gain as an adult they taught. I had quite a few during those years which set the way. I had knew others that got the same treatment from their teachers. One I later in the afternoon. I did a C+ in his class. Poetry.. Classic Literature Reading..

Miss,/Ms. /Mrs./Mr, add Name in blank like family made sure I knew right from wrong and other life lessons not part of any study lesson.

I do hope some into days public school system will have some of their teachers like it was back in days or old.

Gee I ran that a bit long, sorry waltky...
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