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Old 01-12-2013, 01:07 PM
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Have any of you seen the new Summer's Eve commercials, featuring the slogan "Hail To The V"?
I am appalled by them. Seriously.
I've seen four different ads (two of them more than once) in the past 48 hours, and I don't even watch that much television, so I can only assume this ad campaign is completely ubiquitous (the commercials have been appearing on TLC and Investigation Discovery; those are the two channels I've been watching today; I'm sure they're appearing on other channels as well, though. I mentioned them to a friend of mine, and she said she actually saw one at a movie theater, on the big screen before the movie started).

Summer's Eve, for those who don't know, manufactures and sells "feminine hygiene products", a coy euphemism for douches (which are now called "feminine washes"), as well as various other products like scented wipes and powders, all aimed at "reducing offensive vaginal odor".

Here's the thing: any gynecologist will tell you that these products are not only unnecessary but unhealthy. They disrupt the natural Ph balance of a woman's vagina and cause infection and worse. Vaginas do not need to be cleaned inside, and it is unhealthy to attempt to do so. Vaginas are self-cleaning and only the outside of them requires washing (and only with water and gentle soap, not with harsh scented products). Furthermore, if a vagina develops an "offensive odor", that means it is sick. It is suffering from a bacterial infection, a fungal infection, a sexually transmitted disease, or possibly even something as serious as cancer (cervical cancer, for instance, can sometimes cause a malodorous discharge). A woman whose vagina smells bad should head for the nearest gynecologist to find out what the problem is (because there definitely is a problem), not to the "feminine hygiene" aisle to pick up a box of Summer's Eve, as the manufacturers of these products suggest.

For generations, the Summer's Eve company has played upon women's insecurities about their bodies (and society's suspicions about women's bodies) with their bullsh!t marketing ploys... who can forget the stupid commercials that ran for years in the '90s where a mother and daughter are walking down the beach and the daughter says, "Mom, do you ever feel... not so fresh?", at which Mom whips a Summer's Eve douche out of her purse. These commercials received a lot of well-deserved mockery from various comedians over the years, and were even spoofed on Family Guy... but the thing is, it's really not funny. Convincing teenage girls and young women that their healthy sexual organs stink, that this is the natural state of them and that society requires them to buy products which are unhealthy and potentially dangerous in order to alleviate this condition and not to give offense to others is no laughing matter, and "feminine hygiene" manufacturers have been doing just that- direct marketing to young women and playing on their insecurities (or even deliberately creating insecurities where none existed or should exist) since at least the 1940s and 50s.

But this seems like the greatest offense yet: it's sexist marketing for the new millennium.
"Hail to the V".
Mimicking the slogans of feminism, disempowering young girls and women under the false flag of women's empowerment. Teaching them that they cannot be powerful, competitive, respected, cared for, or well-kempt if they don't purchase and use these unnecessary, unnatural, unhealthy, and dangerous products!

I'm sorry, I don't go off on a feminist rant nearly as often as I did when I was younger, but this really pisses me off!
I'm accustomed to society trying to sell women useless, unnecessary beauty and hygiene products by making them feel like they're inadequate and downright offensive in their natural state and that they therefore need them.
But douche manufacturers are worse, because the product they're peddling is not merely useless but potentially dangerous and unhealthy (and this has been well known by the medical community for fifty years!)
And now to see them pushing these products on a new generation of young women under a guise or pretense of feminist empowerment, via this idiotic new "Hail To The V" campaign?
It truly makes me ill.

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Old 01-12-2013, 01:10 PM
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Those adverts have certainly come a long way, haven't they?
When I was a kid, it was a Mom and daughter walking through a field of flowers, talking about feeling not so fresh.
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I don't like douche or jock itch commercials.
I do take a little argument with the gynecological org over this. I say moderation is the key to most things.
Those flowery douches are probably not good for you unless you just spray them on the outside and even then I have to wonder about perfumes and whatever other chemicals there are

But let's face it, there comes a time when you have to douche with either mild vinegar water or baking powder water.
It should be a rare activity but no amount of sitting in the tub full of rosie freshener can get rid of some natural odors.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:23 PM
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There is a natural odor that is supposed to be there, of course.
What bothers me is that some young girls may be under the impression that they should have none at all.
Yes, douching is rarely necessary, except for certain medical conditions-- short term.
Celebrate the scent the good Lord gave ya, and don't buy into marketing for a product that for years has been totally unnecessary.
The online ad for this kills me.
A woman's hand that is supposed to be a talking vagina.
How cute.
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okay, I am bent over laughing here.. gawd!!!
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There is a natural odor that is supposed to be there, of course.
What bothers me is that some young girls may be under the impression that they should have none at all.
Yes, douching is rarely necessary, except for certain medical conditions-- short term.
Celebrate the scent the good Lord gave ya, and don't buy into marketing for a product that for years has been totally unnecessary.
The online ad for this kills me.
A woman's hand that is supposed to be a talking vagina.
How cute.
I grew up in the home of a Tom Robbins fan, so I ended up getting hold of and reading "Even Cowgirls get The Blues" when I was about nine or ten.
I didn't understand a lot of it- I liked the early chapters, about the female protagonist growing up with a perceived disability (in this case, overly-large thumbs, which turned out to be an advantage later in life when she became a top-notch hitchhiker)- and beyond that I basically just skimmed through the book looking for the sexy parts, of which there were many.
I distinctly remember the part of the book where the protagonist's more worldly friend advises her to dab vaginal secretions on her neck and behind her ears in lieu of perfume, because the smell of it is subtly irresistible to men.

I thought that sounded like a damn fine idea, personally... so I guess I grew up with the idea that vaginas are supposed to have a smell: a good one.
And also that douches and douche manufacturers are evil, which is another underlying theme of that book.
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So far I have learned the new generation of women don't take douches, believe abortion on demand is their right and all swing their tits out in public to breast feed.
hmmm...

give me the innocent persecution, unhealthy 70s.
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So far I have learned the new generation of women don't take douches, believe abortion on demand is their right and all swing their tits out in public to breast feed.
hmmm...

give me the innocent persecution, unhealthy 70s.
I think the women of the 70s were the ones who pioneered all three of the above ideas, actually.
You were probably just out of the loop at the time.
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So far I have learned the new generation of women don't take douches, believe abortion on demand is their right and all swing their tits out in public to breast feed.
hmmm...

give me the innocent persecution, unhealthy 70s.
Douches aren't healthy unless they're medicated to help alleviate an infection of some kind. Douches can and do cause infections and irritation. Personally speaking, I can't use any feminine hygiene product that has any scent or chemicals in it. And, there is no reason to whatsoever. What 10 said is 100% true. If you have a bad vaginal odor, then you have an infection of some kind that needs to be treated with something other than flowery water. Of course, this excludes menstruation, but that is not a vaginal odor anyway. That's just the odor of blood. Once menstruation is over, there's no need to "cleanse" your vagina. Your body does that all on its own.

My mom used douches and kept getting infections. She thought she was getting infections because she wasn't douching ENOUGH. Finally she saw doctor that explain it was the douching that was causing the infections. She had grown up being taught that ANY odor was "bad" and that women smelled "bad" and that women needed to use sprays and powders and douches with perfumes to make them smell "good". It's utter bull**** but summer's eve capitalizes on this ignorance and insecurity. (and in fact feeds it)
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