Originally Posted by AZRWinger
Wait a sec, camping in the parks and public spaces is illegal in most cases. Holding rallies without a permit and making no arrangements for the health and safety of the participants is illegal. That translates into virtually all of the Occupy events being illegal thus the participants are engaged in illegal activity. The only reason the arrest % doesn't exceed 90% or more is due to the corruption of local officials granting special dispensations to the Occupy mob.
Jaywalking is illegal too. It's seldom enforced. In so far as "making no arrangements for health and safety" - that's so broad I'd like to see a law covering in an event where there is no organizer responsible. Permits and camping out - depends WHERE you are and, eventually they were cleared out where they had overstepped their welcome and - voila - there were arrests.
You can support your claims of "most" and your excuse of corruption is grasping at straws here.
The "it is only X percent of Occupiers have been arrested for violent crimes so the movement is nonviolent" is a canard. It only takes a small minority within the group to perpetrate significant violence for example the Weathermen allied with SDS. The fact is Occupy has made almost no concerted effort to expell the violent from their midst. In fact they have adopted a no snitching rule discouraging participants from reporting violent crimes such as rape from the police. How can we accept the claim the movement is non-violent when it harbors violent people and would rather have internal violent crime go unreported because it might hurt their public image? We can't.
Now you are changing the goal posts - since you can't prove that the majority or even a substantial minority were violent, you have to switch to the "it only takes a few" argument. That doesn't work
The other problem with your argument is this: "They" - they made almost no concerted effort to expell the violent from their midst.
You don't know that - the movement occupied hundreds of cities and was different in each city. Which "they" are you referring to?
In fact they have adopted a no snitching rule discouraging participants from reporting violent crimes such as rape from the police.
Again - which "they"? ALL of them? MOST of them? ANY of them? Maybe just a few blown out of proportion?
You offer a lot of opinion, but what facts back it it up?