Occupy: Stuff the Left Won't See

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Originally Posted by Infidel Dog

Yes. For example, when news on this Occupy stuff first started breaking from the MSM (I'd already been reading about it on the right), stories were mostly positive. Dems, rap heroes, and movies stars all drooled over the praised, Occupier, superstars of the new left. Now reality is starting to become undeniable, and you don't want to know about it. I don't blame you guys for not wanting to know the truth, but tough. I'm going to tell you. If the information is false, show me. If not, take your own advice, and shut up.

I don't remember you guys shutting up, when you could find an infiltrator pretending to be a Nazi at a tea party, or you were hearing imaginary N words, which apparently no recording equipment known to man could pick up in a crowd of camera, and phone toting thousands. Don't be expecting us to shut up, when we can show you actual evidence, of how immoral, illegal, sneaky, dirty, hypocritical, and probably dangerous these fleabaggers are.

Are right wing information sites swaying me with the truth? Hell yeah, they are. And if your eyes weren't spinning like pinwheels from left wing indoctrination they would you too.

You do realize you are talking to one person right? Me. I never said or did those things. You seem to be taking out some angst you have built up on li'l ol' wine maker me.
My first encounter with occupiers was on a Boise website. I saw they had grievances and reasons they wanted to march. They have meetings in JD Park and allow all to speak. Good relations with the police.
Then we encountered some in Utah marching and chanting but not holding up traffic. They all looked pretty much like a cross section of America to me. I saw a lot of what looked like soccer moms and students and neat looking seniors.
So that is where I get my impressions. I'm not going to Oakland or New York C, because I don't like either place with or without protesters. Especially to drive. But I just don't like to depend on today's agenda oriented partisans to give me the facts. I have to see for myself.
Someone once said if you look for evil you will certainly find it.
I don't think the Occus are all bad or all angels. I do think they are a phenomena that is not going away and I wish the government officials would address what they are marching about not just that they are being arrested or being hurt etc.
Yes I posted a more favorable story. For balance for goodness sake cause ever since this began...as you say even at its inception some have been presenting the worst they could find.

How can you accuse someone of indoctrination for simply presenting a view opposite what thousands of radio broadcasts and videos have tried to paint?
Doesn't that sound ironic at all?

[Infidel Dog]

Don't even try that middle of the high road BS with me. You're a right bashing, big government, left wing cheerleader, and anybody who's read more than two of your posts knows it.

I'm partisan, but I'm not dumb enough to try to pretend to be anything else. You're partisan, and you foolishly believe those smarter than yourself can't see it. Hint: They can.

Don't pretend to be all reason and light. If you have reason to believe any of the information posted showing the negative side of the Occupy movement is false, show me why. If it's not false, why shouldn't I post it? What are you afraid of?

[Billo_Really]

Originally Posted by Infidel Dog

I don't remember you guys shutting up, when you could find an infiltrator pretending to be a Nazi at a tea party, or you were hearing imaginary N words, which apparently no recording equipment known to man could pick up in a crowd of camera, and phone toting thousands.

Why do you keep pushing this lame ass lie I've already debunked?

Your whole argument rests on the notion that everything being said to House members as they walked to work, would've been picked up on an audio tape with all the recording going on during that little walk. But for your argument to be worth it's salt, then you should be able to tell me what the person running up to John Lewis said to him, from about two feet away, that made him do an immediate about face and confront the guy.

You can clearly see in the video him shouting at the top of his lungs something to Lewis. So, my question to you is, "What did he say?" If you can't tell me what he said, then shut your god-damn f_cking mouth, because you're FOS!

If there was enough recorders there to pick up the n-word, then they would've picked up that too. So your little BS argument gets shot down in flames.

Pony up the tape and I'll take it all back!

[Infidel Dog]

Occupy Denver idiot pushes police officer off his motorcycle.

Occupy Denver man being arrested by DPD 10/29/2011 Frank Roper - YouTube

Occupy Denver man being arrested by DPD 10/29/2011 Frank Roper - YouTube

[Infidel Dog]

Originally Posted by Billo_Really

You can clearly see in the video him shouting at the top of his lungs something to Lewis. So, my question to you is, "What did he say?" If you can't tell me what he said, then shut your god-damn f_cking mouth, because you're FOS!

That's not Lewis, Superstar. That's Emmanuelle Cleaver. That's the spitting allegation. It's a separate incident. Lewis is about thirty feet to the front.

I've shown you video from five angles of the two allegations of two different locations where the name calling was alleged to take place. If that's not enough, or you refused to watch it, tough.

[saltwn]

Originally Posted by Infidel Dog

Don't even try that middle of the high road BS with me. You're a right bashing, big government, left wing cheerleader, and anybody who's read more than two of your posts knows it.

I'm partisan, but I'm not dumb enough to try to pretend to be anything else. You're partisan, and you foolishly believe those smarter than yourself can't see it. Hint: They can.

Don't pretend to be all reason and light. If you have reason to believe any of the information posted showing the negative side of the Occupy movement is false, show me why. If it's not false, why shouldn't I post it? What are you afraid of?

I evolve constantly. I am not a mouth piece for the left or the right. I have been looking through some news letters while you were posting (and I downloaded a game ). A liberal site wants me to contribute because they want me to believe the "right" are bigots and that our freedom and democracy are at stake, blah blah blah. It was clear to me that some entity had a hold of the right during the last Presidential election. Maybe I'm slower to admit some entity has a hold of the "left". But I have told you what I saw with my own eyes. What have you seen with yours?

[Infidel Dog]

Urine Dumper Arrested at Occupy Portland

"On Friday October 28, 2011, one subject was arrested for Disorderly Conduct, two subjects were cited and excluded for Alcohol in the Park, and two subjects were excluded for Possession of Marijuana in the Park.

Another man, 36-year-old Christopher David Bartz, was booked into the Multnomah County Jail on an outstanding drug-related warrant and also charged with Offensive Littering and Drugs in the Park and excluded from Lownsdale and Chapman Squares.

Officers saw a Bartz dumping a plastic bottle of what appeared to be urine into the street and made contact with him. Bartz denied that the substance was urine despite the officers' ability to identify the overwhelming smell of urine and marijuana coming from Bartz."

Arrest count of Occupiers now at 2,826

[Billo_Really]

It's worth noting, that the group that is spewing every name in the book at OWS trying to smear the movement by telling us how awful these people are, is the same group that told us:

• Iraq had WMD's
• the healthcare bill had death panels
• Obama was going to raise your taxes
• Obama's a muslim
• global warming isn't real
• we need to worry about the threat of sharia law
• that ACORN did something illegal
• that we were attacked in the gulf of Tonkin
• that scientifically sound movie, "Reefer Madness".

It's the same group that's been running around starting the:

• war on drugs
• war on crime
• war on terror

So we might want to just consider the source when it comes to this type of vitriol. Because they were wrong about everything else; and there's no reason to believe they're right now.

There's a chance they are, but they'll have to prove it, not spew it!

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

It's worth noting, that the group that is spewing every name in the book at OWS trying to smear the movement by telling us how awful these people are, is the same group that told us:

• Iraq had WMD's
• the healthcare bill had death panels
• Obama was going to raise your taxes
• Obama's a muslim
• global warming isn't real
• we need to worry about the threat of sharia law
• that ACORN did something illegal
• that we were attacked in the gulf of Tonkin
• that scientifically sound movie, "Reefer Madness".

It's the same group that's been running around starting the:

• war on drugs
• war on crime
• war on terror

So we might want to just consider the source when it comes to this type of vitriol. Because they were wrong about everything else; and there's no reason to believe they're right now.

There's a chance they are, but they'll have to prove it, not spew it!

Horshack laugh

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Originally Posted by Infidel Dog

Urine Dumper Arrested at Occupy Portland

"On Friday October 28, 2011, one subject was arrested for Disorderly Conduct, two subjects were cited and excluded for Alcohol in the Park, and two subjects were excluded for Possession of Marijuana in the Park.

Another man, 36-year-old Christopher David Bartz, was booked into the Multnomah County Jail on an outstanding drug-related warrant and also charged with Offensive Littering and Drugs in the Park and excluded from Lownsdale and Chapman Squares.

Officers saw a Bartz dumping a plastic bottle of what appeared to be urine into the street and made contact with him. Bartz denied that the substance was urine despite the officers' ability to identify the overwhelming smell of urine and marijuana coming from Bartz."

Arrest count of Occupiers now at 2,826

How do you think truck drivers use the bathroom?