Different subjects, different threads.

[QUOTE=saltwn;981969]I think the progressive vote is just split
Only two candidates took med for all seriously and only sanders has a cohesive plan
btw when people actually hear Bernie un clipped they get that it is cheaper by far than what we pay now.[/QUOTE]

So do you really believe that Bernie has it all figured out? That he knows everything about healthcare?

Obama's ADA gang said they had it all figured out, isn't it perfect now?

We all kept our doctors, we all are paying 2,500.00 a year less.

Do you think they will have to pass Bernie's plan before they read it?

When you say "we," you are obviously assuming that "we" all pay about the same thing for healthcare insurance, of the same sort (apples to apples).

And that is simply not true.

In fact, not even close.

And one may also reasonably wonder: Are you okay with long wait times, and healthcare rationing--which are not just talking points of the dreaded Republicans; they are the actual experience of Canadians, who have government-controlled healthcare--or does that matter, even marginally, to you?

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I would be perfectly accepting of whatever flaws the Canadian system has in exchange for the absurdities of ours. In the industrialized world, we have the least "socialized" health care system, and yet our costs per capita are much higher than anyone else's with little to nothing to show for it. As far as wait times go, a lot of people here have a wait time of forever because they cannot afford healthcare in this country.

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"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." - Donald Trump, on pedophile Jeff Epstein.

Good for you. I just hope you are in good health and are never in need of specialized care. If you ever do find yourself in that predicament, be glad you don't live in Canada and have access to the best medical care in the world here in the United States.

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To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine

A lie doesn't become truth, a wrong doesn't become right, and Evil doesn't become good, just because it is accepted by the majority. - Booker T Washington

Well, at least you are honest.

(Oh, and the term "flaws" seems to greatly minimize the problems...)

This appears to be a plea for socialism...

It is really not appropriate to be disingenuous.

The fact is that no one is denied healthcare, in this country, for lack of any healthcare insurance.

The Emergency Room will take them.

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"In his second inaugural address, [Franklin D.] Roosevelt sought 'unimagined power' to enforce the 'proper subordination' of private power to public power. He got it…"—George Will, July 8, 2007

Maybe by "flaws", he means accidental deaths due to negligence, incompetence, and low paid doctors.

As far as the Socialism, I believe that once us Baby boomers are gone, America will have no choice but to adopt Socialism. Some will get by for a little while due to inheritances from us boomers, but that money will be blown fast.

No doubt China will be heavily involved in the new socialist country of America.