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there's a woman working for me through medicare agencies who has no insurance till January when Idaho's new Medicaid expansion goes into effect.
I pray this hope is not taken from her.
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My health care premiums just recently went down. Who do I thank for that?
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My health care premiums just recently went down. Who do I thank for that?
Obama, all blessings flow from Obama. After years of sharply increasing premiums punishing the so-called stupid people who had to buy health insurance premium increases have drastically declined or prices have decreased following the zeroing out of individual mandate penalties. The more of Obamacare that can be replaced the better it is for affordable health insurance.
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there's a woman working for me through medicare agencies who has no insurance till January when Idaho's new Medicaid expansion goes into effect.
I pray this hope is not taken from her.
No surprise you are favor of taxing others to pay for your comfort and convenience.
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there's a woman working for me through medicare agencies who has no insurance till January when Idaho's new Medicaid expansion goes into effect.
I pray this hope is not taken from her.
Well dang, Salty, why don't you give her the money to make sure she gets her insurance? After all, to do otherwise means you don't care about your fellow man.

Sorry, the snark just slipped out. Your hope for this woman is nice, but please stop and realize that someone is paying for that 'expansion of Medicare'. You know my thoughts on 'insurance'. And once again, the involvement of government can only add to the cost.
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Well dang, Salty, why don't you give her the money to make sure she gets her insurance? After all, to do otherwise means you don't care about your fellow man.

Sorry, the snark just slipped out. Your hope for this woman is nice, but please stop and realize that someone is paying for that 'expansion of Medicare'. You know my thoughts on 'insurance'. And once again, the involvement of government can only add to the cost.

Funny how it works,

Usually lefties want higher taxes on everyone that makes more money than they do.

The ones that pay NO taxes, want EVERYONE to pay more taxes.
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Obama, all blessings flow from Obama. After years of sharply increasing premiums punishing the so-called stupid people who had to buy health insurance premium increases have drastically declined or prices have decreased following the zeroing out of individual mandate penalties. The more of Obamacare that can be replaced the better it is for affordable health insurance.
The premiums went up because of Republican control in Congress where the anticipated first few years of losses by the insurance companies were not reimbursed at the 80% rate that was established under Obamacare. Don't blame Obamacare for Republicans failing to fund the provisions of Obamacare.

The individual mandate continues to exist and the reduce rates are occurring before the elimination of the penalties for individuals without insurance.

The elimination of the penalties by Republicans does create a problem for Republicans because it removed funding for those with pre-existing conditions that will remain enrolled in Obamacare. With Democrat control of the House, where all tax and spending measures originate, there are two choices for resolution of the lack of revenue created by the Republicans.

1) Reinstate the individual mandate penalties at an increased rate.

2) Have the federal government fully fund the financial shortfall to continue to provide coverage from the general tax revenues. To do this the recent tax cuts for the super-wealthy and corporations, that didn't need a tax cut and increased deficit spending by at least $1.4 trillion without any benefit to the US economy - but the House is expected to legislate reversal these cuts while increasing the tax cuts for 90% of Americans anyway.
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Funny how it works,

Usually lefties want higher taxes on everyone that makes more money than they do.

The ones that pay NO taxes, want EVERYONE to pay more taxes.
Not even close to being true.

Democrats want fair taxation. The only fair taxation is when the taxes imposed are "proportionate to the estate" of the household. The estate is assets minus liabilities (profit) and when addressing an income tax that's income in excess of the "cost of living" (profit).

Roughly 50% of American households do not have income in excess of the reasonable cost of living and should be paying no federal income taxes. The top 1% of income earners have millions to hundreds of millions of dollars of income (Pure Profit) that is taxed as a much lower tax rate than the median income household pays.

The most "fair" tax proposal is one I've made. Exempt all income up to median income from federal income taxes. Tax all household income above median income, regardless of source, at the same tax rate. The tax rate should be adjusted annually to provide the funding necessary for authorized expenditures from the general budget to eliminate deficit spending.
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One measure I hope the Democrats in the House will push is the elimination of the 10% State obligation related to the expansion of Medicaid. If they can accomplish this then the expansion of Medicaid can be implemented nationwide providing health care to tens of millions of additional Americans.

This may not occur until after the 2020 elections when Republicans will be trying to defend over 20 incumbent Senate seats like the Democrats had to do in this election. It 2020 the Democrats will probably control both the House and the Senate based upon what we've seen in 2018 where Democrats received 7% more votes than Republicans and the entire nation is moving more to the left.
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The premiums went up because of Republican control in Congress where the anticipated first few years of losses by the insurance companies were not reimbursed at the 80% rate that was established under Obamacare. Don't blame Obamacare for Republicans failing to fund the provisions of Obamacare.

The individual mandate continues to exist and the reduce rates are occurring before the elimination of the penalties for individuals without insurance.

The elimination of the penalties by Republicans does create a problem for Republicans because it removed funding for those with pre-existing conditions that will remain enrolled in Obamacare. With Democrat control of the House, where all tax and spending measures originate, there are two choices for resolution of the lack of revenue created by the Republicans.

1) Reinstate the individual mandate penalties at an increased rate.

2) Have the federal government fully fund the financial shortfall to continue to provide coverage from the general tax revenues. To do this the recent tax cuts for the super-wealthy and corporations, that didn't need a tax cut and increased deficit spending by at least $1.4 trillion without any benefit to the US economy - but the House is expected to legislate reversal these cuts while increasing the tax cuts for 90% of Americans anyway.
The most massive rate increases actually happened BEFORE the PPACA was fully enacted - in other words, BEFORE the Republicans had anything to do with it. Reasoning? Because the PPACA had rate increase caps on premiums, the insurance companies nailed the premiums as much as they possibly could to get their profits in before they were capped.

A well thought out program would have addressed that possibility. But passing something in the dark of the night on a straight partisan vote doesn't lend itself to forethought.

The individual mandate has not been enforced, but employers are still required to jump through all the hoops, in an administrative boondoogle of epic proportions. To my best recollection, they changed the reporting format THREE TIMES in the span of 6 months. The cranial-rectal inversion of the lack of planning is 100% owned by the Democrats.

Putting this as politely as I can, the PPACA is a biased, partisan dysfunctional Charlie Foxtrot of the first water. It does not provide healthCARE, it is a front loaded payment mechanism that makes insurance companies the equivalent of a condom.
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