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Oh, I agree. That is why in an earlier thread I stated that I wanted government completely out of my healthcare, not just a repeal of the ACA, but completely out.
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Do you think we should push poor people to the curb?
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Do you think we should push poor people to the curb?
I think we should work toward creating less poor people. Creating more poor people by government doing more for more people does not do that.

This especially applies when the more is paid for by taking from the producers.
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So you will pay for others healthcare until the economy improves? straight answer poor people to the curb or not?
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I think we should work toward creating less poor people. Creating more poor people by government doing more for more people does not do that.

This especially applies when the more is paid for by taking from the producers.
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I see where you are going. What I want, is to be able to purchase insurance that covers my family and myself in the event of a catastrophic injury or illness. I don't need the government in the middle of it telling me that I also need to cover gender re-assignement surgery, birth control and other issues that will not be facing my family. If I want to see a doctor when I get a bad cough, I will pay for that out of my own pocket. However, if someone in my family suffers an injury or illness that requires extensive medical care, it is covered. It is also my choice as to what level of coverage, if any, that I chose. Therefore, if I don't have coverage and an event happens that is beyond my ability to pay, I would stand to loose all that I own to pay my debts.
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I know you know where I am going, you will pay for others healthcare even if you get what you want, repeal Obamacare and save the profit based healthcare system. So just admit it to yourself. We have universal healthcare now and have had for years. Problem is, it is the most expensive and least effective in the world. Seems odd the conservatives have so vehemently defended it for years. Oh yea, it is profit based.
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I see where you are going. What I want, is to be able to purchase insurance that covers my family and myself in the event of a catastrophic injury or illness. I don't need the government in the middle of it telling me that I also need to cover gender re-assignement surgery, birth control and other issues that will not be facing my family. If I want to see a doctor when I get a bad cough, I will pay for that out of my own pocket. However, if someone in my family suffers an injury or illness that requires extensive medical care, it is covered. It is also my choice as to what level of coverage, if any, that I chose. Therefore, if I don't have coverage and an event happens that is beyond my ability to pay, I would stand to loose all that I own to pay my debts.
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I know you know where I am going, you will pay for others healthcare even if you get what you want, repeal Obamacare and save the profit based healthcare system. So just admit it to yourself. We have universal healthcare now and have had for years. Problem is, it is the most expensive and least effective in the world. Seems odd the conservatives have so vehemently defended it for years. Oh yea, it is profit based.
You seem to gloss over the fact that participation in what we have had for years is voluntary with many different companies offering their product/service whereas what you propose is mandatory with only one option available.

With private insurance, if I don't like the options, service, results, etc., I can chose to drop them in favor of another option. With government run UHC, I lose that ability.

See the difference?
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If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free.
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You must be an insurance salesman
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I would prefer that the government gets out of my healthcare, the sooner the better. There is no constitutional requirement for government to have anything to do with private sector healthcare and there is no good reason for them government to insert themselves into it. The last thing we need is some DC bureaucrat deciding what treatments or medicine I am allowed to have.
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